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Thanks, I hadn't even looked on his side yet, still trying to sort grandma!
I think the next step is to order the Manning birth certificate?

As all will be looking for grandma thought I'd try grandpa. You may already have this but here goes- Alfred H son of Alfred and Julia nee Chapman married 1913 Poplar. He had two brothers Leonard A 1919 and Ronald L all born in Islington. Both brothers seem to appear on peoples trees. Haven't found any other rellies yet but will keep trying.

From the 1911 image, Henry is 2 not 4,

NEEDHAM, Joseph Head Married M 43 1868 Wheelwright Derbyshire England Chapel En Le Firth
Wife and STACKS of kids with Mr Needham.

FRENCH, Henry William Visitor Married M 29 1882 Gas- Fitter Stratford London
FRENCH, Edith Emily Visitor Married 3 years
F 27 1884 Stratford London
FRENCH, Henry Manning Visitor Married M 4 1907 Battersea London

Little Henry is NOT married of course...Hope not aged 4..

Registration District:
Chapel En Le Frith Sub District:
Chapel En Le Frith Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Chapel En Le Frith

Address:
Hayfield Road Chapel- En- Le- Frith County:
Derbyshire

More Manning/French:

Births Mar 1926
French Valentine H Manning Wandsworth 1d 787

Births Mar 1909
FRENCH Henry Manning Wandsworth 1d 532

Rose

Going to bed...Will look in tomorrow to see how its going/gone

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Hi Rose, he was living in Fleetwood Lancashire at the time, and attended a family get together that my mother was introduced to him at.

thanks

You say Valentine was still alive in the 1970s. How do you know this and where was he living?

Rose

Sorry FannyByGaslight - the father's occupation listed on her sisters birth certificate is refinery operator Margarine Factory, ex army.

Thanks guys, that looks like the only William Henry Brown French, is there any way of finding out if he had any further children? I don't know how to go about that.

For a birth in August it looks to be the one with Manning as mothers maiden name then as posted by Mike earlier.

Worth a try anyway

So, her birthday has always been in question, she said it was changed when she found out some information when applying for passport so we have 8th August and 21st August.

with regards to her father's occupation, she said there was some connection with a margerine factory.

as another note, the mother on her sisters birth certicate is listed as Rose French late Humphries formally Legg.

Clarrisa.

Did you note the baptism and death for one child in 1906 whose fathers name was William Henry Brown French?

With regards to her marriage certificate - I do, yes. She lists her father as John French (deceased). However, just to add to the mess, her sister Ivy also listed her father as John French on her original marriage certifcate of 1943 but this was then crossed through and altered in December 1944 by the registrar with a handwritten comment saying "For John French read William Henry Brown French". My grandmothers marriage certificate has not been changed.

With regards to her birthday,

I am not sure how i can confirm or reject the Valentines, only thing to go on is the William French?

Andy - I had come across the Manning, but hadnt found the Valentine so that is interesting, what did you search on for that result?

many thanks guys :-D

Oh pooh,Chris! Was just looking to see if he survived.

Maureen

Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
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French William Albert V 0 Wandsworth 1d 322


Name: William Albert Valentine French
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1906
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1906
Father's name: William Henry Brown French
Mother's name: Elizabeth French
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St John
Borough: Wandsworth

(PB written on side of image. Fathers occ. Horsekeeper, 12 Sewell Rd.)

Just adding, in case the above W H B French ties in somewhere!.

Chris :)

As Patchem has asked on your other thread and I asked earlier

When was Millicents exact birthdate please?
Do you know?

Also on there you say she has father down as John French on marriage and so did Ivy although that was changed later.
But you did not say what his occupation was .

2 threads on this subject are not good..

So best to stick to one and say which one..


Edits...

Oh well done Maureen......Trust you to do the sensible thing and find his baptism..: :-D

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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Albert Valentine French
Name: William Albert Valentine French
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1906
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1906
Father's name: William Henry Brown French Occ:Horsekeeper
Mother's name: Elizabeth French
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St John
Borough: Wandsworth
12 Sewell Rd

Maureen

I already did Mike and the other one...

1903 Valentine is father Phillip

FRENCH, Philip Head Married
27 years M 50 1861 Labourer In Brewery Essex Great Waltham
FRENCH, Mary Anne Wife Married F 48 1863 Essex Barcham
FRENCH, Reginald Thomas Son Single M 18 1893 Brewers Labourer Essex Great Waltham
FRENCH, Valentine L R Son M 6 1905 Essex Great Waltham

Births Jun 1903
French Valentine Lois R - Chelmsford 4a 714
FRENCH Valentine Louis R - Chelmsford 4a 714

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Could someone look up the details please

1911 census
FRENCH ROSE - F - 1894 - 17 - Dunmow Essex
FRENCH VALENTINE L R - M- 1905 - 6 - Dunmow Essex