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Mary E Rice is the only one not under both names .Mother Rice.

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Mary E Rice 1922 Chesterfield 7b 1379.

I think there might be two threads of the same family here, but definitely need more certificates.

Are you sure there is a Mary E Rice

Name: Nellie Rice
Mother's Maiden Surname: Page
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1348 (click to see others on page)

If you look on FreeBMD Nellies birth is registered in 1926 - 7b 1190 Chesterfield.
Rice Nellie - mothers name (Walsh). Though I can't find a marriage for Rice & Walsh - but unless this is an error it indicates that Charlottes married or maiden name was at one time Walsh.

Yes i looked for a marrige on Ancestry for a Rice and Walsh .No luck

Name: Walter James Bryan
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1855
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 525 (click to see others on pa

If you look on FreeBMD Nellies birth is registered in 1926 - 7b 1190 Chesterfield.
Rice Nellie - mothers name (Walsh). Though I can't find a marriage for Rice & Walsh - but unless this is an error it indicates that Charlottes married or maiden name was at one time Walsh.

Starting to lose the will. You need the marriage cert.
Jan

Is this his Death?
Name: Walter J Bryan
Birth Date: abt 1857
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1173

Was it a first marriage for Walter ,and what age was he.

The information i have which is backed up with certs is Mary E Rice born 1922, Chesterfield Derbyshire. She had a older brother who died a year or so after his mother, There is a John A Rice died 1934 aged 19. Youngest sister Nellie (Full forename) born 1926 All in Chesterfield. Now for Nellie i have a mothers maiden name of Walsh?? And for John A Rice a miden name of Page in 1914, and a Andrews in 1917?? Very muddling and then Charlottes own marrige in 1929 to Walter J Byan and death in 1933?

Name: John A Rice
Birth Date: abt 1915
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Age at Death: 19
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 750

Just in case the 1911 above is correct, this is the marriage if the above couple plus possible children after 1911. But you def. need her marriage cert. to Walter Bryan.


Marriages Jun 1908
Page Charlotte Derby 7b 1284
Rice Alfred Derby 7b 1284


Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Rice John A Page Chesterfield 7b 1537

Births Mar 1917 (
Rice Elizabeth A Page Chesterfield 7b 1288

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Rice Ada M Page Chesterfield 7b 1806

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Rice Nellie Page Chesterfield 7b 1348

Name: John A Rice
Mother's Maiden Name: Page
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1914
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1537 (click to see others on page)

I have Mary E birth Cert, her daughter. She had always said it was her mother (Charlotte) maiden name, and that was her surname too??

Name: John J Rice
Mother's Maiden Name: Barton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 446 (click to see others on page)

Name: John Rice
Mother's Maiden Name: Sherwin
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1217 (click to see others on page)

The Charlotte who married Alfred Rice was Charlotte Page
Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)

Cooke Norah Grace Derby 7b 1284
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Page Charlotte Derby 7b 1284
REES Henry Derby 7b 1284
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rice Alfred Derby 7b 1284

It seams that a mass order of certs is needed to get to the bottom of this one? Seams she MUST of been married at least once, therefore it brings her maiden name suspicious?

How do you know it is her maiden name? PLEASE answer query re. marriage cert!!
Jan