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Yes thank you all for the the help

@Marie -

They were married because my second name goes under hill so Mark Hills did marry jeanne donald ... the HILLS became HILL

Daniel, I searched both variants (Donald & Hill/Hills) in UK and Wales.

However, if they married elsewhere then it wouldn't have shown up.

Do you know when & where they married? (You'll need that to get further back).

There was no need to marry to take the fathers name just like today

jax

My point exactly jax!

I do have some reservations about the Jeanie Donald found in 1901 & 1911. That one was only 17 in 1911 and Daniel's Arthur was born later that year in Cardiff, around 300 miles away.

I guess it IS possible that her parents sent her away to have the baby .........

These look like 2 siblings for Arthur (both have Mother's Maiden Surname as Donald)
John K Hill 1913 Sep Q Cardiff
Constance M Hill b1915 Jun Q Cardiff

Daniel, did you get Arthur's DOB and parent's names from his birth cert?

What other info have you got to arrive at his parents' POBs?

If you use the freebmd site, you will find other Hill births with MMN Donald, in Cardiff.

A Hill / Donald marriage in cardiff

Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Donald Rosina Hill Cardiff 11a 679
Hill Albert Donald Cardiff 11a 679

and another

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Donald Mary Jane Cardiff 11a 628
Hill Arthur Cardiff 11a 628


so those births above could belong to one of these couples

AFTER READING A LOT OF THIS RECENT REPLYS, I AM NOW BECOMING CONFUSED ...
I NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM MY AUNTIE BAB BUT IM SURE MARK HILLS AND JEANNE WOULD HAVE BEEN MARRIED ...

ARTHUR RONALD HILL WAS BORN 18 SEPT 1911 AND DIED 29 0CT 1969 .. HE MARRIED MARY ELIZABETH MEES
I DONT KNOW IF THAT COULD HELP BUT ITS WORTH EXTRA INFORMATION THAT I CURRENTLY KNOW

Daniel - I'd already seen that info on your tree on ancestry, the only help that would be is in getting a copy of their marriage certificate again to confirm details.

Problem with info passed down in families is that it's not too reliable, no matter how adamant the relatives giving the info are that they're right.

It's entirely up to you whether or not you follow advice given on here, but this link may be useful: General Register Office http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Marie -

OK thank you for the help.

I Will use the advice i have been given

No bother! :-)

If at any time you want more help just come back and update this thread.

Let us know if you get any more info to help solve the loose ends.