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from staffs bmd showing that Ann had been married before and the Bayley children were probably hers from her previuos marriage

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DERRY * Charles BAILEY Ann Farewell, St Bartholomew Lichfield 7PL/1/10
DERRY * Charles MITCHELL Ann Farewell, St Bartholomew Lichfield 7PL/1/10

the * denotes one of the names was the previous married name and the other the maiden name

pricklyholly. yes that is correct and he was still single in the 1911 census.the last one we can check on. thank you :-)

possible deaths

Name: Charles Derry
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1856
Registration district: Lichfield
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 21_ image says 213

and
Name: Charles Derry
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1851
Registration district: Lichfield
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 17
Page: image says page 42

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1841
: Charles Derry
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Farewell
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 979
Book: 9
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Derry 40
Elizabeth Derry 60
Thomas Derry 35
Mary Derry 8

and?
Name: Charles Derry
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1799
Christening Date: 15 Dec 1799
Christening Place: Penkridge, Staffordshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's name: John Derry
Mother's name: Elizabeth


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1861 England Census
about Ann Derry
Name: Ann Derry
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Branton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Farewell and Chorley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Derry 49
Charles Bayly 20 (Son)
Hannah Bayly 4 (Daughter)
George Derry 7 (Son)
Sarah Derry 5 (Daughter)


Living alone next door is.....

Hannah Derry Head Widow age 75 (Born 1786) Lichfield Staffs. Pauper.

just wondering about this one same place as christening ( Farewell )


1851
Name: Charles Derry
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Derry born: Breston, Staffordshire
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dunston, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Farewell
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 2014
Folio: 168
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Derry 52
Ann Derry 39
Hannah Derry 2 born: Chorley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Bayley 11 born: Elmhurst, Staffordshire Relation: Stepdaughter
John Bayley 9 born: Longdon, Staffordshire Relation: stepson

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The other Charles........

1871 England Census
about Daniel Derry
Name: Daniel Derry
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ann Derry
Gender: Male
Where born: Chorley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Farewell
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Derry 56 (Widow)
Daniel Derry 20
George Derry 18
Sarah Derry 15
Robert Bayley 15 (Grandson)

Maddie .thank you for that .i will dig a bit further on that information & see what i can find.

yes .sorry about that porkie pie. this is roughly in the same area and some of the census records say chorley or burntwod.all in staffordshire

marraige for a charles derry to ann
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: DERRY, Charles
Registration District: Help Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 17
Page No: Help 372
MarriageFinder™: Charles Derry married one of the following people Help


STOKES, Ann view record


WARREN, Sarah Ann view record


WILLITTS, Mary Ann view record


BERRESFORD, Anne view record

the marraige you refer to
MarriageFinder™: William Derry married Ann Bellison Help
Name: DERRY, William
Registration District: Help Lichfield
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 17
Page No: Help 101

Name: BELLISON, Ann
Registration District: Lichfield
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 17
Page No: 101
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the record on family search is this one and not Burtonwood

DANIEL DERRY Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 OCT 1851 Saint Bartholomew, Farewell, Stafford, England

Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: CHARLES DERRY Family
Mother: ANNE
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C037891 1813 - 1867 0426542 Film 0933106 Film


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the other records for the DANIEL DERRY who married Betsy Ann Batts are all submited so not reliable

porkie pie. i do not know when charles & anne married.only going on the little i have found.

lancashire ann. the c i put was for a christening according to the records of the latter day saints (mormon registers) ken.

I cannot find a Charles married to a Ann Derry on the 1851 census in Staffordshire

of child bearing age

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Hi everyone who as been kind enough to reply. yes there were 2 daniels born within a couple of years of each other. the daniel i am interested in married i believe a betsy ann batts. the daniel born to william & ann derry never married according to all the census records upto 1911. hope this helps.

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DANIEL DERRY Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
30 OCT 1853 Burntwood, Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM DERRY Family
Mother: ANN

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

there are 2 Daniel Derry's on staffs bmd born within a couple of years

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DERRY Daniel Lichfield Newcastle-Under-Lyme L/11/485

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DERRY Daniel Lichfield Newcastle-Under-Lyme L/13/294

same family with 1st one dying or 2 different families?

you say daniel c 26/10/1851 - by that did you mean the 'c' to be 'christened' or 'approximately' please

Name: Daniel Derry
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1853
Christening Date: 30 Oct 1853
Christening Place: Burntwood, Staffordshire, England
Father's name: William Derry
Mother's name: Ann

and birth
Name: Daniel Derry
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1853
Registration district: Lichfield
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 251


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