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Possible birth for Lena:-

Name: Orsolina Agnes Armanni
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1893
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 246

and Emma:-

Name: Frances Emma M Armanni
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 251

Just because Lena and Emma are noted as being Luigi's daughter's, doesn't mean to say that Agnes was their mother.
To be sure who their mother was you would need to buy their birth certificates.

Thanks Mary, this adds even more to this most bizarre item I've had to follow up on my tree. It would have made great TV. How about 'Who Do You Think You Are'???
I think there's one or two shady characters these days who steal electricity.

More intrigue for you.
Lena was born Orsilina Agnes Armanni 1893.

George born 31/12/1889 changed his name to Fuller.
He married Elizabeth Burgess in Brentford J.F.M 1916 3a 137.They had 10 children in the name Fuller.Including the ones below

Orsolina E A Fuller 1917 George L A Fuller 1920
George 1920
Alfred Arthur 1924 married a Hoffland and had 3 children
Robert G A Fuller 1922

George died ?? 1945 in Brentford 3a 286.
Some of this info off a tree,others i have found in the records on Ancestry.

Luigi was guilty of stealing ELECTRICITY.I found it on Google.

Maryb.

Lena Armanni married J/A/S 1911 to John T Jones had Percy J L Jones o.n.d 1911 Brentford died 1919 can't see any othe children.

Emma V married O/N/D 1915 in Poplar to William C Mills had William G L Mills 1916.

I can't see a marriage or death for George,but he is clearly in Luigi's will.

Maryb.

His birth town was Brescia, Lombardy, Italy

Clarifying the last two census I see this
1901 he is at 56 Gloucester St Holborn, status married (is Agnes alive or not?) The three children with him were all born Bexley Heath, Kent.
Plus german born servant Hilda Erlie 20.
1911 Lena is 18, Emma 15, that's OK. Although it says Lena born Brixton, Emma Kent. Little bit astray there. But it clearly states he is a widower.
It seems his business was at 17 Queens Rd, Bayswater and his living address was 59 Moscow Rd.
I wondr if George ever got his inheritance?

Agnes Armanni died J/F/M 1900 Holburn age 36,
1b 546.
But it says he is married in 1901!!


Maryb.

The only thing I'm wondering about is if he & Agnes got back together after his imprisonment? Given that there were two more daughters, Lena & Emma. That it states he was a widower in 1911 looks like wife Agnes did die in 1900! Ages differ for Lena & Emma between the 1901 & 1911 census's ??
Did George run away because of abuse, given the reason for improsonment?
I think this has been one of the most intrigueing bits of family I've come across in my tree.
Before you all shout, I'm off to look at these census results right now.

Gosh, you folks are absolutely FIRST CLASS. What a load of info so quickly.
My very grateful thanks to each and every one of you.

Parents of Frank Welch were John browning welch born @ 1828 exeter Devon and Eliza 1829 Liecestershire.

1881 Rotherhithe D18 > 45
John B Welch
Eliza
Frank 1856 Exeter a Ham and Beef Shopman.

Maryb.

1911

ARMANNI, Luigi Head Widow M 52 1859 General Engineer And Elctrician Italy VIEW
ARMANNI, Lina F 15 1896 London Briston VIEW
ARMANNI, Emma F 15 1896 London Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
71 Reference:
RG14PN71 RG78PN3 RD1 SD3 ED3 SN69

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington South Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
59 Moscow Road Bayswater W County:
London

1911 59,Moscow Rd 2 roomed flat his businass premises?He is a general electrician.
Luigi born Italy 1861 a widow 3 children all alive.
He his with 2 of them and he has written that
George has run away from house and unsure of his whereabouts at present.

Maryb

Many many thanks everyone, That's more than enough info for me to sort them all out.
As always, everybody came up trumps.

He died 7/3/1934 log 15/19 Vine street clerkenwell left £582 8 6d to George Armanni.

There was a death 1900 in Holborn for Agnes Armanni,but ther was also one in islington 1942.

Maryb.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about Luigi Armanni

Name: Luigi Armanni
Probate Date: 11 Apr 1934
Death Date: 7 Mar 1934
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London

Reads:-
Armmani Luigi of 15/19 Vine-Street Clerkenwell Middlesex died 7 March 1934 Administration London 11 April to George Armanni electrical engineer. Effects £582 8s 6d.

Name: George Luigi Armanni
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 472

1901 census says he is still married
Name: Luigi Armanni
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brercia Italian Subject, Italy

Civil parish: St Andrew and St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:56 Gloucester street

Occupation:Electrical instrument maker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Holborn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 443
Piece: 245
Folio: 31
Page Number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Luigi Armanni 40
George Armanni 11
Lena Armanni 8
Emma Armanni 4
Helda Eshe 20 servant



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 245; Folio: 31; Page:

I accidently deleted census 1871 whilst trying to edit it:

Name: Agnes Oakes
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Oakes
Mother's name: Eliza Oakes
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Angels and St Michael
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 573
Folio: 134
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Oakes 34 c1837 Norfolk
Eliza Oakes 33 c1838 Norfolk
Walter Oakes 10
>>>Agnes Oakes 6 c1865 Norfolk
>>>Emily Oakes 4 c1867 Norfolk

3/7/1890 Luigi Armanni given 18months sentence for attempt to commit annunatural offence so in 1891 he was in prison.

Maryb.