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1891

Name: Harriet White
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Isaac R White
Gender: Female
Where born: Tickhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Brampton Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: West Melton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Rotherham
Sub-registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3855
Folio: 57
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac R White 66
Harriet White 52
Francis C White 11
Willie White 1
Albert Burton 27 Son in Law
Emily White 20

Emily looks a likely candidate for Willie's mother........unless there are other daughters on the 1881, which is free

EDIT:

Checked the image..................Emily is married to Albert, so may not be the mother

They had quite a few daughters, per 1871, not counting 1 already married that Harriet was visiting (see below):

WHITE, Isaac Robt Head M 46 1825 Lincolnshire
WHITE, Thomas Son M 19 1852 Lincolnshire
WHITE, Betsey Helen Daughter F 17 1854 Lincolnshire
WHITE, Robert Son M 15 1856 Lincolnshire
WHITE, George Son M 11 1860 Lincolnshire
WHITE, Anne Elizth Daughter F 9 1862 Lincolnshire
WHITE, Lucy Annie Daughter F 8 1863 Lincolnshire

Registration District: Thorne
Sub District: Epworth
Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Wroot

Address: High Street, Wroot County: Yorkshire
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SENIOR, Joseph Head M 26 1845 Yorkshire
SENIOR, Jane Wife F 30 1841 Yorkshire
SENIOR, Willie Son M 0 1871 Yorkshire
WHITE, Harriet Visitor F 32 1839 Yorkshire
WHITE, Emily Daughter F 0 1871 Lincolnshire

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub District: Stanley
Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe

Address: Stanley Parkside Farm, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe
County: Yorkshire

Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Beachill Ann Barnsley 9c 304
Burton Albert Barnsley 9c 304
Marshall Henry Barnsley 9c 304
White Emily Barnsley 9c 304

Trying to place Augustina but only finding the marriage ??

Where did they live ? do you know when Augustina died as her death cert should say if she was wife or widow of.

What was her age on the marriage cert ?

Could son George born 1860 on census 1871 be the George White who may have married Sarah Ann Kenworthy?

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
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BEAUMONT Hannah Lamenda Barnsley 9c 210
Betts George Barnsley 9c 210
>>KENWORTHEY Sarah Ann Barnsley 9c 210
>>KENWORTHY Sarah Ann Barnsley 9c 210
>>WHITE George Barnsley 9c 210

Thank you everyone!

Very sad to see Leonard died before he was 1. Wonder if he was a brother to Willie?

Still haven't been able to find a date of death for Willie though.

She was Augustina L Hague on marriage, so perhaps:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Augusta L White
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1958
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 251

That looks promising Marie
Name: Augusta Lavinia Hague
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1891
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 201

Augusta Lavinia White d. 28/08/1958. Says she was "wife of William Kenworthy White - a retired Coal Miner" Lived at 65 Grasby Road, Hull

Augusta was b. 1891 and had 3 children before she married Willie. (As far as we know, he was the only man she married).

Thank you!

Does anyone know, on a WW1 card, what cause of discharge a.0.265/7 means please?

So willie was still alive in 1958

Notice too the informant calls him William!!

The death certificate states that she was the wife of William (now William, not Willie) Kenworthy White and doesn't mention that she had been widowed.

The strange thing is that my Mum remembers her dying (as do her older siblings) but no-one remembers her being married and Augusta was their grandmother. My Nanna (maternal grandmother) spoke about her father being a coal miner (as he seems to have been) but he wasn't her father.

I do feel bad doing my family tree as my Nanna was very private about her family and didn't want anyone to know what had gone on. I presume it's because she and her two siblings were illegitimate.

The death certificate states that she was the wife of William (now William, not Willie) Kenworthy White and doesn't mention that she had been widowed.

The strange thing is that my Mum remembers her dying (as do her older siblings) but no-one remembers her being married and Augusta was their grandmother. My Nanna (maternal grandmother) spoke about her father being a coal miner (as he seems to have been) but he wasn't her father.

I do feel bad doing my family tree as my Nanna was very private about her family and didn't want anyone to know what had gone on. I presume it's because she and her two siblings were illegitimate.

The informant was Augusta's son, Leslie Hague, who also lived at the same address. Maybe he didn't like him! Or maybe he was strict!

I'd really appreciate it if anyone could help me find a death certificate/date of death.

Keep trying but got stuck! I've looked under "William" as well as "Willie" but still no luck.

Thank you!

Nicola

As the informant her son must have known whether Willie was still alive or not. If he had pedeceased her then the cert should say widow of,
Did the children not know of him ? seems strange that you say they didnt know she was married . There seems to be several children of their marriage,

Had they separated ?

There's no death for a Willie K White or a William K White.

Wonder about this one as the date of birth fits with qtr of Willie's birth

Name: William White
Birth Date: 18 May 1889
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1980
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Pontefract
Inferred County: North Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 1192

Problem is wihout the distintive second name theres lots of Willie /William White's

Thank you Shirley!

There were 3 children born to Augusta Lavinia Hague....Alice Lavinia Hague b. 1917 (my Nanna), Celia Hague b. 19 and Leslie Hague b. 1926. Leslie was born the year before Augusta married Willie K. White in 1927. On Leslie's birth certificate, it states that the father was William Hague, so I wonder if Willie White was his father but he was written on the certificate as Hague to make people believe they were married?!

Alice and Celia didn't have a father on their birth certificates.

My Mum (Marcia Himsworth) was born in 1949 and Augusta died in 1958. Her Mum (Alice) had had an argument with Augusta (her mum) and they weren't talking. She remembers her Mum coming into the room reading the bereavement section of the newspaper and seeing her mum's death in there. My Mum has 3 older siblings, the oldest being, I think, 10 years older than her (for some reason, I can't get in to my tree at the moment) and also a cousin, who is daughter to Celia and none of them remember Augusta being married, though they do remember Augusta! It's been a bit of a difficult one. I had been searching for Augusta's date of death for ages and I eventually asked for help on here and people helped me find out that she had married Willie, so her name had changed to White! I've got the marriage certificate and it is correct as the witnesses were her parents.

The William White you have found could well be right. I suppose I would need to buy the death certificate to really find out. It's difficult trying to find who his parents were too. I know I'm not actually related to him (well, I presume anyway) but I'm really interested in him, probably due to all the history surrounding him and Augusta!

Thank you for all your help!

Nicola

I willbe visiting Brampton Church West Mellton on their open day in a couple of weeks they usually have records on display.will look to see if willie was baptiesed there

Leonard

Thank you Leonard!