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Hi Barbara,
Finding the links between your Herbert Beardsll 1902 and my Beardsell c.1740 could take you several weeks?
Thanks for all the potential siblings. I will now have to do some cogitating and perhaps reach no conclusion. You can't win them all!

Frances

Hi Frances

Lol !! we are going to end up related --My grandfathers sister marrired Herbert Beardsell --from Holmfirth i 1902 !!


I have done a search for Beardsell children born with father Joshua (1742 + / - 20 years )

these are what came up--father "Clothier" and address just says Holme

Thomas Beardsell abt 1738 Christening 18 Nov 1738 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

John Beardsell abt 1742 Christening 7 Aug 1742 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

John Beardsell abt 1742 Baptism 7 Aug 1742 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Joshua Beardsell

Leah Beardsell abt 1748 Christening 21 Nov 1748 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

Ellen Beardsell abt 1751 Baptism 1 Mar 1751 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Joshua Beardsell

Betty Beardsell abt 1753 Christening 18 Jun 1753 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

Jonas Beardsell abt 1756 Christening 27 May 1756 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

Anne Beardsell abt 1758 Baptism 26 Nov 1758 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Joshua Beardsell

Susanah Beardsell abt 1761 Christening 9 Aug 1761 Almondbury, All Hallows Joshua Beardsell

Thomas Beardsell abt 1761 Baptism Oct 1761 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Joshua Beardsell


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Father Jonas---"Clothier" most say Holme --a couple says GreenGates ? could this just be the house address where they lived?

The Beardsell abt 1737 Baptism Sep 1737 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Jonas Beardsell

John Beardsell abt 1742 Christening 27 May 1742 Almondbury, All Hallows Jonas Beardsell

Beardsell abt 1744 Baptism Oct 1744 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Jonas Beardsell

Lake Beardsell abt 1747 Baptism 4 Mar 1747 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Jonas Beardsell

Sarah Beardsell abt 1753 Christening 2 Jun 1753 Almondbury, All Hallows Jonas Beardsell

Phillip Beardsell abt 1757 Christening 20 Nov 1757 Holmfirth, Holy Trinity Jonas Beardsell

George Beardsell abt 1760 Christening 9 Mar 1760 Almondbury, All Hallows Jonas Beardsell


Barbara x

Oh Barbara you have really made my day. Whilst a previous marriage for Martha could have been possible to find in FreeBMD era, IGI is nowhere near as searchable. In fact the new Batch search is quite a problem.

I am not really expecting you to be able to answer my latest problem but this is where I am at :-

JOSHUA SANDERSON
Christening: 17 APR 1798 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY SANDERSON
Mother: MALLY BEARDSELL

MARTHA BEARDSELL
Christening: 28 OCT 1769 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: JOHN BEARDSELL
MARY 11 JAN 1764, SARAH 25 SEP 1765, HANNAH 31 OCT 1767, JAMES 30 JUN 1771, GRACE 02 NOV 1772,
JOHN 18 OCT 1773

JOHN BEARDSELL Marriage: 29 AUG 1763 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Spouse: BETTY GARLICK

BETTY GARLICK
Christening: 04 DEC 1741 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: JOSHUA GARLICK

JOHN BEARDSELL
Christening: 27 MAY 1742 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: JONAS BEARDSELL

JOHN BEARDSELL
Christening: 07 AUG 1742 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: JOSHUA BEARDSELL

So is Martha's father the son of Jonas or Joshua ?????

To be honest I stopped at this point last night and have not yet looked for clues in John's siblings......

Have you thought that Martha may have been married before marrying Joshua?

just a thought !!! for example

Birth
MARTHA BROOKE
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 27 APR 1807

Christening: 20 MAY 1807 Lane Independent, Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BROOKE
Mother: BRIDGET

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??

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

about Abel Dyson Name: Abel Dyson
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1828
Parish: Almondbury, All Hallows
Spouse's Name: Martha Brook

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I can't find a death for Abel--but neither can i find them on 1841 census

Barbara x

Thank you for all those Barbara and brummiejan. I couldn't be with you earlier as I have been plucking elderberries for making wine ..... hick!
So my guess of a previous marriage for the first 3 kids (now 4) seems to fit.
As the line I am following is Bridget 1835 I am looking for mother Martha Dyson but the two possibles in 1808 in IGI in the Huddersfield area have nothing to make them conclusive.

Thank you Jan, I had put it on earlier but it was mistranscribed as Landerson--but that proves that one --Its just the rest I have put on that I'm worried about now lol !! Could you check them out please. ?

There is also a Green and a Smith (first names ) Sanderson that could belong to Joshua --

Barbara x

Hi Frances
I hope someone will check all my above info--I'm not sure of Marys death or even if its the right 1st marriage !!

PLEASE will someone check and see what they think ?

All from West Yorkshire Parish records on Ancestry

Thanks

Barbara x

Has someone already put this?

Name: Lee Sanderson
Gender: Unknown
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Sep 1824
Baptism/Christening Place: Kirkburton, Holmfirth, York, England

Father's Name: Joshua Sanderson
Mother's Name: Mary

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02922-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1542106
Reference Number: yr 1820-1837 p 155

maybe another birth / baptism---but I can't find Lydia !!

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ellen Ann Sanderson Name: Ellen Ann Sanderson
Birth Date: 8 Oct
[abt 1820]
Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1820
Father's Name: Joshua Sanderson ---cloth dresser (I think its saying Cloth Dresser!!)
Mother's Name: Mary Sanderson

Address looks like 5 Lane ends?

Maybe 1st Marriage for Joshua ??

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Joshua Sanderson

Name: Joshua Sanderson --of the parish of ALMONDBURY
Marriage or Bann Date: 31 May 1819
Parish: Kirkburton, All Hallows
Spouse's Name: Mary Greensmith --of this parish




Maybe Marys Death record ??

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
about Mary Sanderson Name: Mary Sanderson
Birth Year: abt 1792
Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Burial Date: 9 Mar 1829
Burial Age: 37

Had joshua been married before ?


????Says SANDERSON on the image

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Lee Landerson

Name: Lee Landerson
Birth Date: abt 1824
Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Baptism Date: 19 Sep 1824
Father's Name: Joshua Landerson ---Cloth ?
Mother's Name: Mary Landerson

Hi Frances

This looks like Jesse

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Jesse Sanderson Name: Jesse Sanderson
Birth Date: 3 Apr 1834
Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Baptism Date: 11 May 1834
Father's Name: Joshua Sanderson
Mother's Name: Martha Sanderson

Thank you for the extras Barbara, I will add them to the tree.
I looked for Joshua's children Lee, Lydia and Jesse in IGI with no luck and the first two are before the marriage of Joshua and Martha (as I have found it). Please could you check you records to see if there is any detail on them?

Lee c.1825, Lydia c.1827 and Jesse c.1834

Joshuas Death ?

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
about Joshna Sanderson
Name: Joshna Sanderson
Birth Year: abt 1798
Parish: Holmfirth, Holy Trinity
Burial Date: 12 May 1850
Burial Age: 52


Barbara x

Maybe more siblings ??


Exact Search Results - West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
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Henry Sanderson abt 1788 Christening 14 Jan 1788 Almondbury, All Hallows Henry Sanderson

Andrew Sanderson abt 1789 Christening 22 Nov 1789 Almondbury, All Hallows Henry Sanderson

William Sanderson abt 1793 Christening 1 Dec 1793 Almondbury, All Hallows Henry Sanderson

Betty Sanderson abt 1796 Christening 31 Jan 1796 Almondbury, All Hallows Henry Sanderson

Joshua Sanderson 15 Apr 1798 Christening 17 Apr 1798 Almondbury, All Hallows Henry Sanderson

I did see a death for William 1796 father's name Henry but I switched my attention to the marriage of Joshua and Martha, to take account of the earlier children in the 1841 census but nothing is showing up. Perhaps Martha is a second wife - further searching is required

The other possible:

Name: Betty Sanderson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: Jan 1796
Baptism/Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND

Death Date: 28 Jul 1798

Father's Name: Henry Sanderson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-5
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 230651
Reference Number:

There are a couple with father Henry but no mother named, recorded as York.

Name: William Sanderson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Dec 1793
Baptism/Christening Place: Almondbury, York, England

Father's Name: Henry Sanderson

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02050-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 20043
Reference Number: yr 1793-1806

Thans brummiejan, I already have their marriage

JOSHUA SANDERSON Marriage: 27 OCT 1833 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Spouse: MARTHA DYSON

and now with a better idea of Joshua's age I have found

JOSHUA SANDERSON
Christening: 17 APR 1798 Almondbury, Yorkshire
Father: HENRY SANDERSON
Mother: MALLY BEARDSELL

You will appreciate I am fairly chuffed but at present IGI is not throwing up any siblings for Joshua

Maybe if youn get Martha's surname you can find their marriage? This cert would do it.

Births Jun 1844 (>99%)
Sanderson Lot Ecclesfield 22 160