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Hello .Can anyone help me find the parents of Ivy Lily Owen B.1913 London.I know she had three sisters Winnie Betie and Olive also a brother.Ivy married Angus Fretwell in Hamersmith London in 1931.Thank you

Have you found her birth record on FreeBMD? It's free and easy to use.

You can order the birth cert from the GRO - £9.25.

Jill

Hello Jill.Yes i have looked on Freebmd and the only thing i can find is a Ivy L. Owen mothers name Smith. I have looked to try and match other siblings but came up with nothing

Were her siblings older or younger? Do you have her marriage cert for her father's name and occupaton?

Sorry cant tell you much but i believe they were all born quite close together.I guess the only way forward is to get the marriage certificate .Where do i send to only ever got certificates locally.Thanks

Lexie, you can order online from the GRO (General Records office):

www.gro.gov.uk

They cost £9.25.

Jan

Thank you

You can order certificates online from the GRO - just google it.

I wondered about these births (from FREEBMD)

Births Jun 1913 Owen Lily I Stockwell Kensington 1a 261
Births Mar 1915 Owen George R F Stockwell Kensington 1a 265
Births Jun 1916 Owen Beatrice F R Stockwell Kensington 1a 282


And this marriage?

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
OWEN Albert Amos Kensington 1a 297
Stockwell Florence Rose Kensington 1a 297


Using the free search facility on the 1911

HOUSEHOLD OWEN WINNIFRED F 1910 1 Kensington London
HOUSEHOLD OWEN ALBERT M 1883 28 Kensington London
HOUSEHOLD OWEN ALBERT M 1908 3 Kensington London
HOUSEHOLD OWEN ROSE F 1887 24 Kensington London

1891 for "Rose"?

Name: Rose Stockwell
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Stockwell
Mother's Name: Maryam Stockwell
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 233 Portland Road

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 25
Folio: 21
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
John Stockwell 42 Bricklayer
Maryam Stockwell 38
Annie Stockwell 16
Thomas Stockwell 13 Pawnbrokers Assistant
Jesse Stockwell 12
Matilda Stockwell 6
Rose Stockwell 4
Louisa Stockwell 3
William Stockwell 5/12



All born London

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 25; Folio 21; Page 39; GSU roll: 6095135

Births Mar 1887 STOCKWELL Florence Rose Kensington 1a 111

do you have her death index as i don't see an Ivy Fretwell born 1913 in the death index

Just to tidy up - the births for the two children on the 1911 census.

Births Sep 1907 OWEN Albert Robert T Kensington 1a 153

Births Dec 1909 Owen Winifred Hilda C Kensington 1a 78

Thank you all very much for your help it is much appreciated .

Found the marriage - and I will put in a correction for Florence:

Albert Amor Owen
[Albert Amos Owen]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Spouse Name: Horence Rose Stockwell
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Nov 1906
Parish: Christ Church, Notting Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Thomas Owen
Spouse Father Name: John Thomas Stockwell

Jill

Details from marriage cert:

Wits: Edwin Brown and Louisa Stockwell.
Address (for both) 307 Portobello Road [Portobello Road!!! Fabulous]
Fathers: Thomas Owen - deceased - was a gardener
John Stockwell was a bricklayer.
Albert's occupation - could be iron worker (?)

Jill

Correction to Florence's name was made back in 2009 ...

Jill

Fantastic thank you yet again

Lexie, I will delete those census for Albert as in the light of the marriage details Jill has found they are the wrong family. I will look for the correct family and post the details if I can find them.

Could Albert actually have been Amos?

Births Mar 1883 Owen Amos Albert Kensington 1a 101


Yes, this looks like the family in 1901!

Name: Amos A Owen
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Owen
Mother's Name: Clara Owen
Gender: Male
Where born: Notting Hill, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Notting Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 404 Portobello Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Piece: 29
Folio: 122
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Owen 63 Gardener, b. Shrops.
Clara Owen 31 wife, b. Worcs.
Amos A Owen 18 Son, Farm Lab.
Robert Owen 8 Son
George Serbit 81 Boarder
Thomas Evans 48 Boarder

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 29; Folio: 122; Page: 24.

Clara's age has been mistranscribed in 1901 - here they are in 1881

Name: Thomas Owen
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Clara Owen
Gender: Male
Where born: Wistonstow, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Raymede St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 49d
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 42
Folio: 29
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Owen 36
Clara Owen 31
Ernest Owen 5 months

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 42; Folio: 29; Page: 14; GSU roll: 1341010


Marriages Jun 1878
CLARKSON Eliza Kensington 1a 4
Everton Clara Kensington 1a 4 <<<<<<<
Olden William Kensington 1a 4
OWEN Thomas Kensington 1a 4 <<<<<<<