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so i think we are saying they are not the same witch mean that william antcliffe came from a differnt village.I just not shure where to start

you have certainly done quite well with the spellings :-)

William and Sarah are in Lowdham in 1841 for our ref


Name: Wm Ancliff
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Name: Sarah Ancliff
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Lowdham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire

Wm Ancliff 60
Sarah Ancliff 60
Thos Ancliff 25
Mary Ancliff 25


the William and Rebecca couple were likely a decade older and had died before censuses


edit ...

name: Rebecca Reason
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Jan 1782
baptism/christening place: LOWDHAM,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
birth date: 16 Jan 1782
father's name: Robt. Reason
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C04745-1

Hi Iv been Busy

From william Antcliffe of 1840 married to Harret Wright 1842

William Was born in Lambly

Census:info
1891 Heanor Minor
1861 Dethick hear he is servant and is working with a Alexander Wright
i wonder if some relation to his wife
1841 Lambley and is just 10 months old

He lives with his farther Jhon Antcliffe 1813 and Fanny Antcliffe 1815 referd to as francess in later census.Jhon comes from Lowdham

there is a jhon born in Lowdham 1812 to wm Hanclif & rebacca reason
there marrige said Anclif 1804

There is wm Ancliff borrn in Lowdham
1781 he would fit in the bill for jhon dad
Exept he marries a Sarah in 1808 and live out there lives that can be seen
on census.
my first thought is sarah is simpley his second wife but on compering the children im not so shure

R: Elizebeth 1808
R: Jhon 1812
R: Charls 1809

S: Elizebeth 1817
S: William 1825
S:Thomas 1813

as you can see they dont add up as jhon would have been born to rebbeca after he had married sarah
So who is this mystery william antcliffe married to rebeca reason
there are plentey of william antcliffes around just how do i fit one of them to her

any help would be great thank you

Oh Good!!!!!!! Thanks for the update!

Maureen

ANTLIFF, William Head M 28 1843 Nottinghamshire
ANTLIFF, Harriet Wife F 28 1843 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, Eliza Daughter F 8 1863 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, John Son M 5 1866 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, William Son M 3 1868 Derbyshire

This turned out to be gold confermed with reltives that Grandad did live on tag hill
Thank you very much for your help

Im shure that would be his death record

This one??
England & Wales, Death Index:
Name: William Antcliffe
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Ilkeston
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 641

Just checking to make certain there was no middle name!!

Maureen

PS-Point taken,Chrissie.
M

sorry bit over welling
would make sence as dose say he was born heanor on
and match with the 1911 records more

he died derbyshire around henor way i think it was in 1944

Maureen if you condense those copies and pastes up and take out the unimportant things and sort the things that get muddled when you copy ... they are so much easier to read !

for instance

KNIGHT, Joseph Head Married M 31 1820 Frame Work Knitter (Glove) Sheepshead Leicestershire
WRIGHT, Priscilla House Keeper Unmarried F 28 1823 Seamer Heanor Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Harriet Lodger F 9 1842 Seamer Heanor Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Mary F 4 1847 Heanor Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Sarah F 0 (7 MOS) 1851 Heanor Derbyshire

Reg. District: Basford
Sub District: Ilkeston
Parish: Heanor Enum. District: 4
Address: Tagg Hill, Heanor
County: Nottinghamshire


Justin here is a very old thread about the surname spelling

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/antcliffe/thread/620803

'I am searching for more details on Jane Antcliffe. She was born in c1834 in Nottinghamshire (Broadholme/Harby/North Clifton area) and was the daughter of William Antcliffe (a labourer). In 1857 she married my gr gr gr grandfather William Franklin in Thorney Parish Church, Notts. They had a witness of Edward Antcliffe. There seems to be a lot of confusion over the spelling of her surname it could be Antcliffe, Antcliff, Ancliffe or Ancliff! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kristian'

many surnames had changeable spelling in the 1800s :-)

Do you know when and where he died??

Maureen

Did you read my last post???

I really think it's this one:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Ancliff
Name: William Ancliff
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1868
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 119


Maureen

Thank you for all the info
iv spent every hour of the last 3 days trying to figure it out

William 1869
definatly had a son arther 1910 (this is my grandad ) he married ethel
allso a daughter fanny,jane
and a son alfred who died at war and is buried in france.

but i still dont know who he is as its so confusig
:-S


im edging my bets back to the retford born one but not clear
what shold i do from hear?

Spelling be darned-I'm partial to this one:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Ancliff
Name: William Ancliff
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1868
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 119


Marriages Dec 1862
Ancliffe William Basford 7b 204
Wright Harriet Basford 7b 204

It looks to me as though Harriet was born as a Wright and then her mother married a Knight.

1861 census transcription details for: Derby Road, Heanor

RG number: RG09 Piece: 2435 Folio: 90 Page: 9


Reg. District: Basford Sub District: 2 Ilkestone
Parish: Heanor Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Derby Road, Heanor
County: Nottinghamshire

KNIGHT, George Head Married M 38 1823 Stocking Framework Knitter
Sheepshed
Leicestershire
KNIGHT, Priscilla Unmarried F 38 1823 House Keeper
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Harriet Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Seamstress
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 10 1851 Scholar
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 5 1856 Scholar
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 3 1858 Scholar
Heanor
Derbyshire
KNIGHT, Joseph Son Unmarried M 1 1860
Heanor
Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Thomas Grandson Unmarried M 1 1860
Heanor
Derbyshire

1851 census transcription details for: Heanor Common

RG number: HO107 Piece: 2126 Folio: 88 Page: 44


Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Ilkeston
Parish: Enum. District: 1D
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Heanor Common
County: Nottinghamshire

KNIGHT, Joseph Head Married M 31 1820 Frame Work Knitter (Glove)
Sheepshead
Leicestershire
WRIGHT, Priscilla House Keeper Unmarried F 28 1823 Seamer
Heanor
Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Harriet Lodger F 9 1842 Seamer
Heanor
Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Mary F 4 1847
Heanor
Derbyshire
WRIGHT, Sarah F 0 (7 MOS) 1851
Heanor
Derbyshire


1871 census transcription details for: Tagg Hill, Heanor
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3480 Folio: 91 Page: 28

Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Ilkeston
Parish: Heanor Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Tagg Hill, Heanor
County: Nottinghamshire

ANTLIFF, William Head M 28 1843 Nottinghamshire
ANTLIFF, Harriet Wife F 28 1843 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, Eliza Daughter F 8 1863 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, John Son M 5 1866 Derbyshire
ANTLIFF, William Son M 3 1868 Derbyshire


Maureen

I wonder if they got Emma's name wrong in 1891??

1881 census

RG number: RG11 Piece: 3336 Folio: 83 Page: 20

Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Arnold
Parish: Arnold Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Jacksons Yard, Arnold
County: Nottinghamshire

GARRATT, Elius A Head Married M 45 1836 Framework Knitter (H M)
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
GARRATT, Amelia Wife Married F 32 1849 Framework Knitter
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
GARRATT, Mary Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
GARRATT, Emma Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
GARRATT, Helen Daughter Single F 3 1878
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
GARRATT, Sarah Daughter Single F 1 1880
Arnold
Nottinghamshire

1891 census transcription details for: Tag Hill, Heanor
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2663 Folio: 80 Page: 43


Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Ilkeston
Parish: Heanor Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Lawrence City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Tag Hill, Heanor
County: Nottinghamshire
ANCLIFFE JUNR, William Head Married M 22 1869 Coal Miner
Heanor
Derbyshire
ANCLIFFE, Emily Wife Married F 18 1873
Arnold
Nottinghamshire

1891 census transcription details for: Tag Hill, Heanor

RG number: RG12 Piece: 2663 Folio: 80 Page: 43


Reg. District: Basford Sub District: Ilkeston
Parish: Heanor Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Lawrence City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Tag Hill, Heanor
County: Nottinghamshire


ANCLIFFE, William Head Married M 51 1840 Coal Miner
Lambley
Nottinghamshire
ANCLIFFE, Harriett Wife Married F 48 1843
Heanor
Derbyshire
ANCLIFFE, Fanny Daughter Single F 15 1876 Seamstress
Heanor
Derbyshire
ANCLIFFE, Jane Daughter F 13 1878 Seamstress
Heanor
Derbyshire
ANCLIFFE, Thomas Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Heanor
Derbyshire


Maureen

Im spending credit after credit and not getting any where :-(

now im realy confused

Is this my great grandad

Name William Henry Antcliff
Year of Registration 1869
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Basford
Registration County Nottinghamshire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 7B
Volume Page 155

Or this one

Name William Antcliffe
Year of Registration 1869
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District East Retford
Registration County Nottinghamshire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 7B
Volume Page 12

its a case of name vs place the W Antcliff in the first transcript is missing the (E) that my G grandad has BUT my G grandad Did live in baseford as seen in as seen in the 1911 census this has put me back to squar one
:-S

judeging by the diifernce in age bettween jane and Ann id say they were differnt people and Ann is his second wife!

Deffinatly Garratt (confirmed with some old photos my dads go :)

so looking for farther of william Antcliffe 1869
married to Emma Garratt

thanks again for all your help

I asked my dad about Emma antcliffe and he gave me the name cheetham
I did do a serch and couldent find a thing.

so possibly is Garratt

most places have said william of 1869 (my great grandad)
was born henor it seems (could he be the baby born in retford?).all i know for shure is his family my granded arthur was in henor!
and i remember visting them there when i was a young lad

Tank you so much for all of this information i am now carfully reading it all
you have been very helpfull.