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My great grandad was Gerald Worrall born 1905 in portobello,i think ive found his dad who was William Worrall born 1885 in willenhall.I also think i found his dad being William Worrall born 1852 in wolverhampton.I am now stuck at a brick wall.I think the William of 1852 was married to Mary Shaw Nutter? and had 9 children James 1875, Henry 1878, Alfred 1880, John 1883, Samuel 1884, William 1885, Horace 1885, George 1887 and Ellen 1873.On the 1901 or 1911 census there was another 2 children being florence 1894 and fredrick 1897 but not sure if these were william and marys children or their childrens grandchildren.I can't find any records on the any of the children and cant seem to go back after William Worrall 1852.Could anyone out there help out,id be really greatful if you could.
Many Thanks Craig

have you looked at the image for the 1911. It should say how many children born alive and how many surviving, also the relationship of the children to the head of house

Craig

Could you please stick to one thread about this family

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1281078

sorry will keep it to this thread,sorry

If this is correct family in 1881

1881 England Census
about Alfred Worrall Name: Alfred Worrall
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Worrall
Mother's Name: Mary Worrall
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 49 Wharf St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2804
Folio: 95
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Worrall 29
Mary Worrall 30
Ellen E. Worrall 8
James Worrall 6
Henry A. Worrall 3
Alfred Worrall 1
Leonard Constable 16



then this might be the marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Constable Mary Wolverhampton 6b 739
WORRALL William Wolverhampton 6b 739


Andy

1911
Address: 72 Stafford St Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire


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WORRALL, William Head Married M 59 1852 Glaizer Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, Mary Wife Married
38 years F 60 1851 Staffs Willenhall
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WORRALL, Henry Arthur Son Single M 33 1878 Railway Wagon Examiner Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, Horace Edward Son Single M 24 1887 Paint Manufacturers Warehouseman Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, George Thomas Son Single M 22 1889 Law Clerk Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, Florence May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Domestic Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, Frederick Harold Son M 14 1897 Errand Boy Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, Violet Niece Single F 19 1892 Steam Laundry Maid Staffs Wolverhampton
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WORRALL, James Leonard Grandson M 6 1905 Staffs Wolverhampton
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says 12 children , 5 died

ideally you should get a birth cert and it would give you the mother's maiden name

Births Sep 1896

Worrall Frederick Harold Wolverhampton 6b 570

thanks alot guys,well i been opening some more door now,gonna try look at the niece that should give me a brothers name to william

1871
Name: William Worrell
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Worrell
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Wolverhampton
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Worrell 48
Mary A Worrell 47
>>>William Worrell 20
James Worrell 18
Sarah Worrell 16
John Worrell 7
William Quinton 48
Ann Cooper 21

Ive think ive found the connection that william worrall 1852 wolverhampton who was married to Mary 1851 is brothers with James Worrall 1853/4 wolverhampton who was married to Emma 1855 wolverhampton.Ive came to this conclusio as James and Emma had a daughter Violet Worrall 1892 wolverhampton,i think on the 1901 or 1911 census Violet was living with William and Mary which was classed as their niece.Is there any way now i can find the parents of William and James Worrall or if they had anymore siblings as the information on Genes reunited isn't sheddig anymore light.
Thanks in advance

bump

sorry but need to bump one last time before i give in

get in after doing some changes with worrall i tried william worroll 1852 and it came up wolverhampton with his brother james worroll 1853 so looks like ive found it,jeez harder than i thought

hey guys looking for any information on a william worrall 1824 who's birth place was wolverhampton.He was married to mary who was born 1825.They had 4 children william 1852, james 1853, Sarah 1856 and Mary 1857.I foud them on the 1861 census living in john street wolverhampton but the last name is spelt Worroll which is a spelling mistake by the translation.Cant seem to find aything on william worrall 1824 so help would be much appriciated
Regards
Craig

Hi Craig,

Do get some certs!!!

I did wonder about these:

FreeBMD
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Marriages Dec 1849
Sheldon Mary Ann Wolverhampton 17 474
Worrall William Wolverhampton 17 474
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FMP
1851 census transcription details for: St John Street, Wolverhampton
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2018 Folio: 76 Page: 1

Reg. District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Wolverhampton West
Parish: Enum. District: 1E
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter City/Municipal Borough: Wolverhampton
Address: St John Street, Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire

WARRALL, William Head Married M 28 1823 Victualler
Wolverm
Staffordshire
WARRALL, Mary Ann Wife Married F 27 1824
Wolverm
Staffordshire
AULT, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 House Servt
Willenhall
Staffordshire
MATTHEWS, Thomas Servant Unmarried M 25 1826 House Servt
Shropshire

Totally different occupation than the 1861 but same area....

Maureen

This might explain the 1851:

FMP
1841 census transcription details for: John Street, Wolverhampton
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1000 Book/Folio: 1/26 Page: 7

Reg. District: Wolverhampton & Seisdon Sub District: Wolverhampton Western
Parish: Wolverhampton Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Wolverhampton
Address: John Street, Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire

SHELDON, James Occ:Publican M 50 1791 Staffordshire
SHELDON, Mary F 40 1801 Staffordshire
SHELDON, Mary F 15 1826 Staffordshire
SHELDON, James M 12 1829 Staffordshire
H???, Benjamin M 40 1801

Thanks alot for the info maureen really grateful for it.Just ashame i cant find anything past the 1851 on william,so cant see if he had brothers or his father and mother were.It all ties up together the information you've gave me got to be same people,i know the translation of documents have it down as either worroll or warrall but the dates and so on tie up with what i know of my great grandad worrall and what my grandad has told me.Wouldn't know were to begin to get the information to go back more.
Thanks again

anyone on this tea time to give me so guidence on how to go back without having any census's for 1820's?
Tnx in advance

Please purchase a wedding or birth certificate for William. We've been "winging it " with absolutely no evidence.

Best,
Maureen

thanks,would i just get that from the archives with the parish records?