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Sorry haven't been around for a few days!

I am researching for a friend so I'm trying to get some more information.

She only knows that he was born between 1900 and 1917 and was told he lived in Colchester Road, he is her grandfather, he did not marry the grandmother and was not seen after 1950 and his wherabouts after that is not known.

Would like to know what evidence of that address is available and what date it is

Rule out this one as well

1911
WINTER, Martha Head Widow F 49 1862 Contractor And Farmer Essex Woodford Bridge VIEW
WINTER, Arthur Son Married M 28 1883 Contractor And Farmer Essex Woodford Bridge VIEW
WINTER, Edith Daughter In Law Married
1 years F 31 1880 Essex Buckhurst Hill VIEW
WINTER, Edith Daughter Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Essex Chigwell VIEW
WINTER, John Son Single M 15 1896 Farmer Son Working On Farm Essex Chigwell VIEW
WINTER, John Grandson M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Essex Chigwell VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9767 Reference:
RG14PN9767 RG78PN515 RD189 SD1 ED4 SN126

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Chigwell

Address:
Grange Farm Hainault Road Chigwell



Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
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WINTER Arthur John Epping 4a 511

We need Mag to come back and see what she thinks, and if she has any idea of when John died.

Kath. x

Kath

The only one I could find in 1901 was that one as well.

So back to the drawing board


Maureen

what relation is he ? do you know if / who he married?

He was the only one I could see born in Leytonstone.

Kath. x

I ruled out the John with parents of Walter and Daisy as he is John Frederick on 1911 census

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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WINTER John Frederick W.Ham 4a 337

Thats the one I have been trying to find on 1901 census but without any luck so far

There is also this birth if you think he was born in West Ham (although this is earlier than you thought):-

Name: WINTER, John Alfred
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 406

This looks like the above John Alfred in the 1901 census:-

WINTER, Walter Head Married M 32 1869 Fancy Leather Worker Mile End London
WINTER, Daisy Wife Married F 30 1871 Westbourne Grove London
WINTER, Walter Son Single M 6 1895 Scholar Mile End London
WINTER, Robert Son Single M 4 1897 Scholar Mile End London
WINTER, Jno Son Single M 1 1900 Leytonstone Essex

Address:
191, Cann Hall Road, Cann Hall

RG number: RG13
Piece: 1610
Folio: 98
Page: 5

Kath. x

If Winter/Couch is right then a problem

Name: Harry Frederick Winter - able seaman
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: Lillie Elizabeth Martha Couch
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 09 Feb 1909
Parish: St Silas, Nunhead
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Dudney Winter
Spouse Father Name: Charles Rick Couch

Name: Alfred George Winter - labourer
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Emily Anne Amelia Couch
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1911
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Joseph Winter
Spouse Father Name: Henry James Watson

? one possible death index 1916-2005 (only one born 1911)but there are others born 1909 1913 1915 etc
Name: John Alfred Winter
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1911
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1982
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 11
Page: 1614

John A birth

Births Sep 1911
WINTER John A mothers maiden name Talbot Lambeth vol number 1d page number 667

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Winter John A mothers maiden name Couch Whitechapel 1c 518

any idea when he died?

You're really kind to do this, it must take you ages!
:-)

Sorry, Findmypast is playing up for me and I can't get onto the births at the moment. I'll have a look later if it starts working properly.

Kath. x

It was John Alfred Winter

Thanks for all your help, I'll look for some more information, I only know that he was born approx 1910 in Leytonstone and was told Colchester Road

x

There are these three births in West Ham in the 10 years after 1911:-

Name: WINTER, John B
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Newby
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 714

or:-

Name: WINTER, John R
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Leighton
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 67

or:-

Name: WINTER, John H
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Jones
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 825

Kath. x

Sorry for the delay - I had to leave the computer for a while.

Colchester Road WAS under Walthamstow but unfortunately there was no Winter family living there at the time.

Kath. x