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hi im trying to find information about a grace dunderdale her farther was called james dunderdale and her mother was called alice shorrock, grace had a daughter called alice may dunderdale we think that she died afew years after having alice as her sister ann elizabth brought her daughter alis may dunderdale up. carnt seem to find graces birth or death and wheather she got married, but we know she was a dress maker in 1903, and that she had a child out of wedlock.

When do you think Alice was born, just to get us started?
Thanks

Added:
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1870
xxx DUNDERDALE James Garstang 8e 779
Parr Agnes Garstang 8e 779
RAWCLIFFE Charles Garstang 8e 779
xxx Shorrock Alice Garstang 8e 779

Have you got them in the censuses?
Thanks

Just for info

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
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DUNDERDALE James Garstang 8e 779
Parr Agnes Garstang 8e 779
RAWCLIFFE Charles Garstang 8e 779
Shorrock Alice Garstang 8e 779

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Dunderdale Alice May Fylde 8e 629

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Dunderdale Grace 29 Fylde 8e 411

we think alice was born in 1903 in kirkham lancishire thankyou.

is this Alice?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Alice May Kirkham Preston DUNDERDALE KH/40/36

Kirkham is in Fylde reg district

you havent given an area so this is just guesswork
Name: Grace Dunderdale
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 411

Births Sep 1876
Dunderdale Grace Lancaster 8e 715

I would guess this is Alice with grandparents maybe?? Though recorded as daughter. Looks like dressmaking was a family occupation, nice to see something passed mother to daughter.

1911

DUNDERDALE, James Head Married M 47 1864 Foreman Timber Yard Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Alice Wife Married
20 years F 41 1870 Dressmaker Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Gilbert Son Single M 19 1892 Warehouse Labourer Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1894 Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, May Daughter F 13 1898 School Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, James Son M 11 1900 School Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Edwin Son M 8 1903 Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Alice Daughter F 6 1905 Lancs Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Jennie Daughter F 3 1908 Lancshire Lancaster VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Alfred Son M 2 1909 Lancshire Lancaster VIEW
PARKINSON, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 74 1837 Tailoress Imbecile Institution Yorkshire Bentham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25545 Reference:
RG14PN25545 RG78PN1461 RD479 SD3 ED21 SN98

Registration District:
Lancaster Sub District:
Lancaster Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Lancaster

Address:
3 Pickard St Lancaster County:
Lancashire

i have tried to search in the censuns, but carnt seem to find grace

narrowing that Fylde district birth down to Kirkham

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
DUNDERDALE Grace 29 Kirkham Preston KH/28/18

1891 census
Name: Grace Dunderdale
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Dunderdale
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurnham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Garstang
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Garstang
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:Wharf cottage

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Garstang
Sub-registration district: Garstang
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3461
Folio: 75
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
James Dunderdale 49 occ warehouse keeper bCockerham lancs
Robert Dunderdale 20 b Rawcliffe Lancs
Ann Dunderdale 19 ??? sister Ann who brought up her dughter ??
Grace Dunderdale 14 b rawcliffe Lancs
Frances Dell 32 lodger occSick nurse




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3461; Folio 75; Page 2; GSU roll: 6098571

different Alice in that 1911 census - mmn = Parkinson

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Alice Lancaster Preston PARKINSON LAN/105/66

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Edwin Lancaster Preston PARKINSON LAN/100/2

Not sure about this entry

National Probate

Name: Grace Dunderdale
Probate Date: 11 Dec 1907
Death Date: 12 May 1906
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Lancashire


Grace Dunderdale of 66 Freckleton St, Kirkham, spinster to James Dunderdale labourer
Effects £233 6s 8d

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Robert Shorrock St. Michael Preston SHORROCK ST.M/7/82

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Ann Elizabeth St. Michael Preston SHORROCK ST.M/8/6

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
DUNDERDALE Grace Ellel Preston SHORROCK ELL/10/99

that probate record fits nicely Glitterbaby

How do you know about Grace?
jan

yes that is correct grace, she and family lived at 66 freckleton street kirkham.

so using lancsbmd as basis this is the GRO ref for Grace's birth

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
Dunderdale Grace Lancaster 8e 715

Ellel is between Preston & Lancaster but comes under Lancaster registration didtrict

just what my grandad has said and also we got in contact with a family member on here and they knew of her name but nothing about her, no one realy knew about grace.

Same family as Brummiejan found, but have we moved away from them?

1901 census - household transcription
Person: DUNDERDALE, James
Address: 3, Pickard Street, Lancaster

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Disability Where Born Original
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DUNDERDALE, James Head Married M 37 1864 Timber Yardsman
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Alice Wife Married F 31 1870 Dressmaker
Calder Vale
Lancashire VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Gilbert Son Single M 9 1892
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
DUNDERDALE, Annie Daughter Single F 7 1894
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
DUNDERDALE, May Daughter Single F 3 1898
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
DUNDERDALE, James Son Single M 1 1900
Lancaster
Lancashire VIEW
PARKINSON, Jane Mother-In-Law Widow F 63 1838 Tailoress
Bentham
Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3991 Folio:
44 Page:
36

Registration District:
Lancaster Sub District:
Lancaster Enumeration District:
29 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Scotforth St Paul

Civil Parish:
Lancaster Municipal Borough:
Address:
3, Pickard Street, Lancaster County:
Lancashire