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children were sarah ann 1858 longton ,john william1860hanley, emily 1863 stourbridge james Bernard 1865 stafford
in 1871 there were living in Longton as grindey or grindy not grundy

I haven't got the marriage cert, but as the marriage cert will give her name as Mc person how can we know that any other info given is correct. There is a huistory of anti catholic sentiment in the area that they married and it seems that she came from a catholic background. My grandfather ( her grandson knew that his grandmothers maiden name had been mc Mann but her believed her to have been scottish protestant. Mcmahon is often pronounced as Mc mann.
the staffsbmd gives
GRINDEY Joseph MCPERSON Hannah Stoke, St Peter Stoke-On-Trent 31/13/016
if bernard in 1841 was illiterate when he said seven for the age of hannah it might have been heard as 11 so written as that.
also strangely my grandfather was friendly with a lady who had the same grandmother as he did ( he never said cousin) her name was mcmann

name: Joseph Grindey
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 8
birthplace: Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Leek
sub-district: Leek
civil parish: Leek
county: Staffordshire

Shame there's a bride missing from this:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1858
Grindey Joseph Stoke on T 6b 238
McPerson Hannah Stoke on T 6b 238
Wild Thomas Stoke on T. 6b 238

I'd be inclined to get this death certificate:

Deaths Mar 1866
GRINDEY Hannah 32 Leek 6b 207

Have you got the marriage cert?
Jan

1861 ?

Name: Hannah Grindy
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Newry, Ireland

Civil parish: Stafford St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
Town: Stafford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 1906
Folio: 35
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Bernard Mitnahon 65
James Mitnahon 34
James Mitnahon 2
Johanna Mitnahon 28
Ellen Mitnahon 7
Morgan Mitnahon 8
Hannah Grindy 27
Sarah Grindy 1
John Grindy 5 MO

Class: RG9; Piece: 1906; Folio: 35; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542885

Hello Susan, can you give us some years of birth for the children?

Where were they in 1861?

How do you know McPherson was an alias?

1871 is Joseph shown as GUNDEY

Sorry to ask the obvious, but are you sure it is the same person?

Just to place her:

1841 England Census

Name: Hannah McMahon
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: St Mary and St Chad
Hundred: South Pirehill

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford

Bernard McMahon 45
Bridgett McMahon 45
James McMahon 15
Bridgett McMahon 15
Peter McMahon 13
Hannah McMahon 11

Hannah Mcmahon used an alias of Hannah Mcperson when she married Joseph Grindey in stoke in 1858. In 1841 she is with the family of bernard and bridget mcmahon in broad eye stafford, but it gives no relationship to the head of the family Bernard McMahon. She appears to be again with bernard on the 1861 census this time as visitor with two youngchildren sarah ann and John grindey ( who is my great grandfather). It appears that she was born in Newry Joseph her husband was not with her on the 1861 census and I have not been able to find him on the 1861 census (he was born in meerbrook near leek staffordshire in 1835) joseph appears again on the 1871 census as a widower with four children.
1841 she is listed as11,1861 as 27 perhaps the first is a transcription error . Is she related to bernard- a daughter or is it a coincidence that she is with bernard on 2 censuses
Can anyone give me ideas as to how I find out more about Hannah?
Is there anyone more able than me who can manage to find Joseph on the 1861 census