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Hi all, I'm trying to find a maiden name for Hellen or Helen Barber
Born Dublin Ireland 1810.
Married Alexander Barber born 1808 Ipswich.
Joined army 1825 and was staitioned at Dublin.
They had a daughter Amelia 1833 .Ireland.
Could anyone look up Amelia as they seem to put mother's maiden name on
records?

Cheers Yvonne :-)

No maiden name on this - from the IGI, which is free

AMELIA BARBER

Christening: 17 MAR 1833 Cathedral St Mary, Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

Father: ALEXANDER BARBER
Mother: ELEANOR

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Thanks Flick, I found that name last night and thought it's a possibility....

Hi Yvonne,

I have an Alexander Crickett Barber b 1808 Ipswich married to Helen Manning b 1809 Ireland. 1851 census has them living in Dover Castle as the Barrack Sergeant with Hellen (sic) and the following children: Amelia b 1833 Ireland, Eliza J b 1835 Canada, Sarah b 1840 Canada, James A b 1843 Leeds, Benjamin b 1846 Westminster, Susannah b 1848 Walmer & Henry G b 1850 Ireland. I assume this is the same. The surname Manning came from Ancestry.co.uk tree by john meredith Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Any help?
Regards
Chris

That's them Chris ! But I've tried seaching for her as Manning and can't come up with anything at all .
:-(
Yvonne.

Me neither. But I seem to remember that the Irish BMD's aren't on line and you have to physically got to Dublin to access them. I would've thought it would be on the Military registers of marriage but ancestry hasn't got them yet. GR has a military records part but I'm not a full member so can't access it.
Chris

Hmmmmmm. . I tried all the chlidren on military births and only Sarah was listed but they don't give maiden name that early. Someone very kindly came up with an irish one yesterday so they must be somewhere online....
Stumped again ! Oh well, thanks for your help Chris.
Yvonne.

Yvonne....It would have helped if you had have put a possibe maiden name in already...also the Religion would help.......

Where does "Dublin" fit into the picture...?

Sorry!
Dublin is listed as birthplace on 1851 cencus.For Helen Barber .
Also Alexander was in the 83rd foot.
I'm looking through my notes and I have no idea now where I've seen
Amelia as Dublin . No It's deffinately just Ireland. Sorry for misleading.

Yvonne

Just wondering if anyone online this evening who could help :-D

Yvonne...I cannot locate any other than Amelia 1833 (ireland)..I cannot locate the 2 listed 1850 Walmer (is that a misprint..?) or a Henry G.
I would be inclined to:
Check to see if there was not a marriage in England (I cant find one) but thats not to say there wasn't one as it is Pre Civil Reg
Have you obtained Alex.Military Docs.? They may help...
I have tried variations of the Manning surname eg.Mannin etc. also Barber eg Barbour etc nothing showing...
Have you tried Scotland...?

In case she did come from Dublin, you could try searching here:
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Hi .. I'm not sure what the "walmer" bit is , that came from Chris above. I may have found a marriage last night Ipswich I believe which seems to tie in with
the family history on the mens side , but I have no more credits left on that site to view it.
Also I have'nt obtained documents. Where would I get those? My information for Alex. was found on here yesterday .
And no, I haven't tried Scotland.
Thanks so much for your help today though it's much appriciated.
I rapidly running out of funds and ideas!

Yvonne

There are some images for his army records in find my past. If you would like me to send the images to you send me a personal message with your email address and I would then save them and send them to you. I shall send my email address to you, too.

Joy

That was brilliant thank you so much

Yvonne I have checked and double checked for both names on the web site Joy has listed also checked for other parts of Ireland listed on the site...nothing...plenty Barber names for Dublin but nothing for an Alex.B.Marriage.....
Have a check yourself (its free) maybe another pair of eyes....nothing for Manning/variations....

Ah thanks so much. . I too am trawlling. . Eleanor , Ellen, Hellen . . Manning
O'mannin anything I can think of !! It's driving me insane! Ha ha !
Something 'll turn up tho' I know it will.Thing is the name Manning is just from someone's tree I believe. So who's to say that's a fact?
I do really appriciate all your hard work .

Yvonne.

You're welcome. I am pleased to have been of help :)

This is the 1851 census from which the info on the Ancestry family tree Chris found is based:

1851 England Census
about Alexander Barber
Name: Alexander Barber
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hellen Barber
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Dover Castle
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 9d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1632
Folio: 210
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Barber 43
Hellen Barber 42 b Ireland
Amelia Barber 18 b Ireland
Eliza J Barber 16 B Canada
Sarah Barber 11 b Canada
James A Barber 8 b Yorkshire, Leeds
Benjamin Barber 5 b Westminster
Susannah Barber 3 b Kent, Walmer
Henry G Barber 1 b Ireland
Henry Macarthny 20 servant

There are two English births there, so it might be possible to find them on freebmd.

I have looked for James, but nothing is coming up for Yorkshire.

A possible for Susannah as the tree mentioned above has her b London, even though the census says Kent. Possible Benjamin and her POBs are the wrong way round:

Births Dec 1847 (>99%)
BARBER Susannah Westminster 1 391

I think FMP has Military births - perhaps somebody with access could check the other children on there.