Find Ancestors

I have seen with my own eyes the mother's maiden name is MANNING!!!!!!
Hooray!!!
:-D

Birth certificate of Susannah Barber.

ooo could be him and his wife and family , lots of similar names . son Alex , Daughter Ellen....
The chap replied from this site replied this morning, he's related to Susannah, James and Sarah's sister, so he's checking his notes and we may finally get to the bottom of this one :-D
I'll let you know.
Yvonne

Yvonne...Dont know if this is James A....

I had a thought that perhaps the James A (1851 Census) b Leeds Yorks was in fact "Leeds" Kent"....

There was a James A Barber b 1848 (Kent) but cant find parents names..however the following is him 1881....

(There is also a "James Barber" b 1848 (Kent) but the following does not appear to be the same person)

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James A. BARBER Head M Male 33 Maidstone, Kent, England Farmer Of 25 Acres
Emma BARBER Wife M Female 34 London, London, Middlesex, England
Alexander J. BARBER Son Male 7 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Ellen A. BARBER Daur Female 5 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Arther G. BARBER Son Male 3 Isle Sheepy
William ALLWORTHY Servt U Male 47 London, London, Middlesex, England Farm Servant (Indoor)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Dwelling Wanden Farm
Census Place Egerton, Kent, England

Found both their deaths . . 1888 Ipswich .

Yvonne...A sense of the ridiculous is what you need on these occasions...!

Ha ha I know it's just getting silly now . .
I even put Alexander Barber into google this morning and it brought me back to this thread! Oh my!...
I really hope this person replies, but I've a feeling they won't as they did'nt read my other messege just unlocked the tree...

Evening Yvonne...
Helen would normally be Helena if written in Latin in a Catholic Baptism/ Marriage Register so no great difference there....
There must be a key to open the lock somewhere..!!

Ok, to update, I have contacted a chap on this site who has Alexander Cricket
Barber and Helen Manning on his tree!
I do hope he replies....
Also They were both Catholic and the church that Alexander was listed as his birthplace is the catholic church used by the army barracks at Ipswitch!
other than that still no further records found....
Does anyone know Catholics use a latin name ?
Just a thought for the mother's name Eleanor (Helen?) above.
1881 census lists Helen as Dublin.
But I also found those details on a Northern Irelend strays record?

Hi, Helen is my Great Great Great Grandmother.
She came to light on Sunday when a few of us on here were trying to locate
My Grt, Grt. Grandma's maiden name.However , at the same time I had a contact from a match on here who told me her maiden name was Barber.
So then we found the family.
Then Lindsey found a Family tree link For Alex. Crickett Barber and Helen Manning. As did Chris earlier on this thread.
I honestly don't know how they get that info. sorry.

Yvonne....Where does "Helen" fit into your tree and how did you connect the family to the Tree on Ancestry......?

I have never used that type of "facility" so am a complete novice in that respect.

"Walmer" is a placename in Kent...!! Doh.....!!

Thanks Potty! feels a bit strange typing that....
I,ve tried miliatry births and only my Great Great
Grandma Sarah is listed and they don't put maiden name that early (?)
I found 88 Helen Mannings in one county in Ireland last night several right time scale but no links to children or husband.

A possible for Susannah as the tree mentioned above has her b London, even though the census says Kent. Possible Benjamin and her POBs are the wrong way round:

Births Dec 1847 (>99%)
BARBER Susannah Westminster 1 391

I think FMP has Military births - perhaps somebody with access could check the other children on there.

This is the 1851 census from which the info on the Ancestry family tree Chris found is based:

1851 England Census
about Alexander Barber
Name: Alexander Barber
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hellen Barber
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Dover Castle
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 9d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1632
Folio: 210
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Barber 43
Hellen Barber 42 b Ireland
Amelia Barber 18 b Ireland
Eliza J Barber 16 B Canada
Sarah Barber 11 b Canada
James A Barber 8 b Yorkshire, Leeds
Benjamin Barber 5 b Westminster
Susannah Barber 3 b Kent, Walmer
Henry G Barber 1 b Ireland
Henry Macarthny 20 servant

There are two English births there, so it might be possible to find them on freebmd.

I have looked for James, but nothing is coming up for Yorkshire.

You're welcome. I am pleased to have been of help :)

Ah thanks so much. . I too am trawlling. . Eleanor , Ellen, Hellen . . Manning
O'mannin anything I can think of !! It's driving me insane! Ha ha !
Something 'll turn up tho' I know it will.Thing is the name Manning is just from someone's tree I believe. So who's to say that's a fact?
I do really appriciate all your hard work .

Yvonne.

Yvonne I have checked and double checked for both names on the web site Joy has listed also checked for other parts of Ireland listed on the site...nothing...plenty Barber names for Dublin but nothing for an Alex.B.Marriage.....
Have a check yourself (its free) maybe another pair of eyes....nothing for Manning/variations....

That was brilliant thank you so much

There are some images for his army records in find my past. If you would like me to send the images to you send me a personal message with your email address and I would then save them and send them to you. I shall send my email address to you, too.

Joy

Hi .. I'm not sure what the "walmer" bit is , that came from Chris above. I may have found a marriage last night Ipswich I believe which seems to tie in with
the family history on the mens side , but I have no more credits left on that site to view it.
Also I have'nt obtained documents. Where would I get those? My information for Alex. was found on here yesterday .
And no, I haven't tried Scotland.
Thanks so much for your help today though it's much appriciated.
I rapidly running out of funds and ideas!

Yvonne

In case she did come from Dublin, you could try searching here:
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/