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I am trying to find out more about George Hargreaves (c1838) who married Sarah Ann Whitley (1848). they married in Hemsworth (Yorks) 23 Dec.1868. George was a widower. They were living at Brierly. His father was Christopher Hargreaves, but the only one I can find with a son George, lived at Ovenden, and was dead when George got married.

Hello Pauline, where did you get the father's name of Christopher from?

If the marriage certificate, did it say the father was deceased? (Sometimes that fact may be omitted)

When you say you're trying to find out more about George, what do you already know? (we don't want to duplicate what you've already got).

e.g. do you know who his first wife was? Have you found him on any census?

Hi Pauline
Does George's marriage certficate give his fathers occupation as a "Mechanic"
The family that you found in 1851 with Christopher as the head of the family are mistranscribed as ARGRAVES in the 1841 census and they are in Ovenden

The marriage was a civil one, and states that George's father was Christopher Hargreaves, Millwright. I haven't got much information about George except that he married Sarah Ann Hargreaves, who in the 1871 census was at home with her father and blind. She later goes to live with her sister, and only in one of the later census does it say she is a widow, so I am puzzled as to what became of him.

That should be Sarah Ann Whitley.

Pauline - the system seems to be very slow sometimes. It seems like nothing's happening so you keep hitting submit - hence the duplicate postings (which you can remove by using the delete button).

What was George's occupation on the marriage cert?

this information is very sketchy ... who was her sister, which censuses, where ... ?

if you give us exact information we will know what you know and that is the starting point we need

can you copy the census information here so everyone can see it ?

In 1881 Sarah Ann is living with her parents in Doncaster, and is blind. I did find a Sarah Hargreaves of the same age and blind but unmarried in the Workhouse at Doncaster in 1871

It's a long shot (1871)

GOODHAND, Francis Head M 70 1801 Lincolnshire
GOODHAND, Mary Wife F 43 1828 Yorkshire
HARGRAVES, George Boarder M 33 1838 Yorkshire < Sailor, b Knottingley?
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Registration District: Goole
Civil Parish: Hook

Address: Doyle Street, Hook, Goole County: Yorkshire

The marriage?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Hargreaves George Hemsworth 9c 159
Whitley Sarah Ann Hemsworth 9c 159

that is one I was looking at too Marie Celeste ... the householder would not necessarily know his marital status ... we still wonder what occupation he had on the marriage certificate ... does George's approximate year of birth also come from his age on the marriage certificate ?

the same for Sarah in 1871 ... her marital status would not necessarily have been recorded correctly ...


this is the 1851 household for our reference in Ovenden

Christopher Hargreaves 50 mechanic
Martha Hargreaves 45
Benjamin Hargreaves 25
Hannah Hargreaves 22
George Hargreaves 19 labourer at foundry ... born Heptonstall
Sarah Hargreaves 17
Amelia Hargreaves 13

Wish I could put it on! The duplicate thing occured when I kept getting an error page and message from windows sorry about that. George's occupation was Engineer, he must have been illiterate as he hasn't signed the cert. just put his mark. Sarah's sister is Amy Cass brother in law Walter. Her parents were Joseph & Eliza Whitley. Could he be a sailor if he was illiterate?

I found a George married to Priscilla who died, they had a child called Hanson, who I found living with the Ovenden family at some point. But apart from the 2 names nothing seems to match. Also Martha, Christophers wife in 1861 is living with her son, and 1871 she's without her husband.

The George above on 1851 census was born in Heptonstall Yorkshire.

What was their addresses on marriage cert and who were the witnesses.

Maryb.

I guess this is her?

1881 England Census
about Joseph Whitley Name: Joseph Whitley
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Whitley
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 22 French Gate Cranes Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Fitters Lab

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 4689
Folio: 43
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whitley 57
Eliza Whitley 51
>>>>>Sarah A. Hargraves 33
Robert Whitley 16
Henry Whitley 10
Amy Whitley 12
Arthur Whitley 7

That's her.

The residence is Brierley (for both) and the witnesses are John Metcalfe and Mary Patrick, the Registrar was Joshua Patrick so I think Mary was his wife. His age is given as 30 (thus dob 1838)

You said that she was with her father on the 71 census but she isn't.

1871 England Census
about Henry Whiteley Name: Henry Whiteley
[Henry Whitley]
Age: 2 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Whiteley
Mother's Name: Eliza Whiteley
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4718
Folio: 38
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whiteley 47
Eliza Whiteley 41
William Whiteley 20
Ester Whiteley 16
Robert Whiteley 6
Alice Whiteley 4
Amy Whiteley 2
Henry Whiteley 2 Months

In 1891 Sarah is a widow. She died in 1909.

No, I found a Sarah Hargreaves, blind but unmarried in the Workhouse, Doncaster, in the census of 1871!