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My relative Rosanna Clarke was born in Hanley Staffordshire in 1887.She married a Thomas Walters at Northwood Holy Trinity Staffordshire in 1905.I have found a Rosanna Walters given as born in Hanley in 1887,living in the Stoke-On-Trent District of Staffordshire in the 1911 Index.Can anyone show me her household please?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

will take a look

CLARKE, Mount Zion Head Widow F 46 1865 House Duties Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Florence Daughter Single F 23 1888 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Ernest Son Single M 16 1895 Assistant Lavatory Maker Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Decorating Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Mount Zion Daughter F 14 1897 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Thomas Boarder Married M 24 1887 Potters Placer Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Rosanna Boarder Married
5 years F 24 1887 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Thomas Boarder M 3 1908 Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Linian Rose Boarder F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Hanley Staffs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16524 Reference:
RG14PN16524 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED14 SN213

Registration District:
Stoke upon Trent Sub District:
Hanley Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Hanley

Address:
119 Mount Street Hanley Stoke-On-Trent County:
Staffordshire

they had 3 children, one died

looks like them
CLARKE, Mount Zion Head Widow F 46 1865 House Duties Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Florence Daughter Single F 23 1888 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Ernest Son Single M 16 1895 Assistant Lavatory Maker Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Annie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Decorating Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
CLARKE, Mount Zion Daughter F 14 1897 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Thomas Boarder Married M 24 1887 Potters Placer Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Rosanna Boarder Married
5 years F 24 1887 Earthen Warehouse Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Thomas Boarder M 3 1908 Hanley Staffs VIEW
WALTERS, Linian Rose Boarder F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Hanley Staffs VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16524 Reference:
RG14PN16524 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED14 SN213

Registration District:
Stoke upon Trent Sub District:
Hanley Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Hanley

Address:
119 Mount Street Hanley Stoke-On-Trent County:
Staffordshire

3 children born 1 died

More possible children after census

rname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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WALTERS John Clarke Stoke T. 6b 389

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Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
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Walters Stanley Clarke Stoke T. 6b 504

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Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
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Walters Ida Clarke Stoke T. 6b 399

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Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
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Walters Millicent Clarke Stoke T. 6b 360


Andy

Mount Zion - what a super name! There is only 1 entry on Freebmd and that is for the marriage.

Marriages Dec 1885
Chatwin Hannah Stoke T. 6b 325
Clarke George Stoke T. 6b 325
MATTHEWS Mount Zion Stoke T 6b 325
Stannay Joseph Stoke T 6b 325
Stanway Joseph Stoke T 6b 325

Just love the name so looked for a possible marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Chatwin Hannah Stoke T. 6b 325
xxxx Clarke George Stoke T. 6b 325
xxxx MATTHEWS Mount Zion Stoke T 6b 325
Stannay Joseph Stoke T 6b 325
Stanway Joseph Stoke T 6b 325

Great minds, and all that, rootgatherer :-)

Birth of daughter with the same name is registered as :-

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
Clarke Mountzion Stoke T. 6b 174

can't see any other records with the same name so it really does seem to be unique.

All the one word for her daughters birth.

Births Mar 1897 Clarke Mountzion Stoke T. 6b 174

Yes Catherine - you can't resist it lol!

Many thanks for all the replies,of course I had the marriage for Rosanna's parents.On a related matter,up until this morning I had made an error when adding this family.I had previously found the marriage for a Mount Zion Clarke in Stoke in 1914 to an Albert Edward Bradbury.Up until this morning I had thought it was Mount Zion junior who married the Bradbury.I found the death though of a Mount Bradbury in 1944 and her birth was given as c 1865!So it was Mount Zion senior who married the Bradbury!I did find a later marriage for the Mount Zion junior to a Samuel C Bourne at Northwood Holy Trinity in 1927.

This all goes to show that it so very easy to take a wrong turn when adding info for your relatives!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Now I wonder?

Births Jun 1865 Matthews Zion Stoke T 6b 174


In the 1871 - listed as son but daughter in 1881


58 Chell Street

Name: Zion Mathews
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Mathews
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mathews
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Hanley
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 151
Piece: 2858
Folio: 72
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
William Mathews 64 Shoemaker b. Cheshire
Elizabeth Mathews 65
Lewis Mathews 22 son Unmarried
Josiah Mathews 24 son Unmarried
Zion Mathews 6



1881

William MATTHEWS Head W Male 74 Newcastle, Stafford, England Shoe Maker
Elizabeth MATTHEWS Daur U Female 36 Chell, Stafford, England Potters Warehouse Woman
Zion MATTHEWS Daur U Female 16 Chell, Stafford, England Potters Warehouse Woman
Ann MATTHEWS Daur U Female 9 Chell, Stafford, England Scholar
William WATERHOUSE Gra Son U Male 16 Chell, Stafford, England Potters Presser
Enoch WATERHOUSE Gra Son U Male 15 Chell, Stafford, England Potters Mould Runner
James WATERHOUSE Gra Son U Male 12 Chell, Stafford, England Potter
Hannah WATERHOUSE Gra Daur U Female 5 Chell, Stafford, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 45 Chell St
Census Place Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341652
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2720 / 20
Page Number 34

I don't personally think the Zion name is much of a lead.... there are LOADS of them when doing a blanket search on Ancestry of Just Zion & Hanley Staffordshire!

Here's Zion Matthews Baptism.

Name: Zion
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1865
Christening Date: 18 Nov 1865
Christening Place: Northwood, Staffordshire, England
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Matthews


T x

:-D

Thanks,of course in all this it is the Clarke family that are my relatives,through the George Clarke(1866-1910)'s mother "Rosanna" Durber.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Rosanna Durber was born in c 1846.special brownie points will be awarded to anyone finding her in 1851!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

OK, I agree we are maybe going off the beaten track a little.

I have found a family tree with Mount Zion Clarke on it.

Born 1897, Mother Mount Zion Matthews and father George Clarke.

Rosanna Clarke is listed as being the eldest sibling.

Mount's birth is listed as roughly 1866.


T x

:-D

This tree also has George Clarke & Rosanna Durber listed as George's parents.

Married 5 Jun 1865.

Rosanna's birth is 1846 and death is 1881

Rosanna's parent's are listed as Thomas Durber & Ann Lovett.

No 1851 listed.

T x

:-D

Births Sep 1845

DURBER Rosanna Wolstanton 17 261
DURBER Rosanna Wolstanton &c 17 268


Not finding her yet in 1851 - but I guess you have already tried hence the offer of extra brownie points!

Scratch the last one... according to the tree i have found on Ancestry the parents of Rosanna are Thomas & Ann.

1851 RG number: HO107 Piece: 2003 Folio: 195 Page: 6

Reg. District: Wolstanton Sub District: Burslem
Address: Hotlane, Sneyd, Burslem, Stoke Upon Trent County: Staffordshire
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DURBER, Thomas Head Married M 30 1821 Carpenter Burslem Staffordshire
DURBER, Ann Wife Married F 24 1827 Burslem Staffordshire
DURBER, Henry Son M 2 1849 Burslem Staffordshire
DURBER, Daniel Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Burslem Staffordshire

This census also has the 2 other siblings born after Rosanna.... Also listed on this tree.

So, yes, where's Rosanna?

Going to check the image to see if she's just been missed off :-)

T x

Nope she's not on the original... it's possible her parents forgot about her when they filled out the form... :-0