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13 Oct 2011 10:11 |
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Hi
I have this family on the 1911 census
As you can see Walter Jerram is a widower aged 31 years.
His first child dorothy was born 1902
second child albert 1903 and 3rd child stanley 1908
living with them is stepson frederick dearlove born 1894 london.
I thought i could find the marriage of walter jerram and ? dearlove but not had any success.
Apart from sending for a birth cert is there anyway i can find out who walter married? ( times are hard so can't afford to send for certs )
Any ideas would be very much appreciated.
cheers
linda
On the 1911 Census
The family are living at Merdon Husley Hampshire
Walter Jerram head widower aged 31 years occupation is Farm Carter born Hursley Hampshire
Dorothy Jerram daughter aged 9 years born St Albans Herts
Albert Jerram son aged 8 years born St Albans Herts
Stanley Jerram son aged 3 years born St Albans Herts
Edith Jerram sister single aged 17 years born Hursley Hants
Frederick Jerram brother single aged 15 years occupation is Domestic Gardner born Hursley Hants
Kathleen Jerram sister aged 12 years occupation is Scholar born Hursley Hants
Frederick Dearlove stepson single aged 17 years occupation is Steed Groom born Belgrave London
this is frederick dearlove's birth
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick Thomas Dearlove
Name: Frederick Thomas Dearlove
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 415
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13 Oct 2011 10:19 |
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Where does Walter Philpott fit in ?
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13 Oct 2011 10:22 |
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Where does the name Philpott come into it please?
Births Sep 1901 JERRAM Dorothy Mary St. Albans 3a 723
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13 Oct 2011 10:22 |
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I'm confused...........
What is the connection between JERRAM and PHILPOTT?
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13 Oct 2011 10:25 |
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purely as its after the birth of the last child
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Name: Eliza Jerram
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 374
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13 Oct 2011 10:26 |
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so sorry i am an idiot . It is walter jerram not philpott.
I ha been looking at arelative called philpott and got them mixed up
i have corrected the original post so as not to add to confusion for any new readers
BIG APOLOGIES
linda
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13 Oct 2011 10:27 |
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1911 for the ful address
JERRAM, Walter Head Widower M 31 1880 Farm Carter Hampshire Hursley VIEW
JERRAM, Dorothy Daughter F 9 1902 St Albans Herts VIEW
JERRAM, Albert Son M 8 1903 St Albans Herts VIEW
JERRAM, Stanley Son M 3 1908 St Albans Herts VIEW
JERRAM, Edith Sister Single F 17 1894 Hants Hursley VIEW
JERRAM, Frederick Brother Single M 15 1896 Domestic Gardener Hants Hursley VIEW
JERRAM, Kathleen Sister F 12 1899 School Hants Hursley VIEW
DEARLOVE, Frederick Stepson Single M 17 1894 Steed Groom London Belgrave VIEW
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6139 Reference:
RG14PN6139 RG78PN285 RD103 SD4 ED2 SN57
Registration District:
Winchester Sub District:
Hursley Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Hursley
Address:
Merdon Hursley Winchester Hampshire County:
Hampshire
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13 Oct 2011 10:32 |
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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Frederick Thomas Dearlove
Name: Frederick Thomas Dearlove
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Spouse Name: Gladys Ella Mance
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1919
Parish: St Paul, Lorrimore Square
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Frederick Dearlove
Spouse Father Name: Henry George Mance
This looks like fredericks marriage
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13 Oct 2011 10:33 |
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1901......Walter not 'at home'
Name: Frederick Jerram
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Jerram
Mother's Name: Mary J Jerram
Gender: Male
Where born: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Hursley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hursley All Saints
Town: Hursley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Hursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 1087
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Jerram 53
Mary J Jerram 47
Frank Jerram 20
Annie Jerram 12
Beatrice Jerram 10
Edith Jerram 7
Frederick Jerram 5
Kathleen Jerram 2
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13 Oct 2011 10:36 |
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Well Walter is not living with his parents in 1901
Name: Kathleen Jerram
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Jerram
Mother's Name: Mary J Jerram
Gender: Female
Where born: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Hursley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hursley All Saints
Town: Hursley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Hursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 1087
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Jerram 53
Mary J Jerram 47
Frank Jerram 20
Annie Jerram 12
Beatrice Jerram 10
Edith Jerram 7
Frederick Jerram 5
Kathleen Jerram 2
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13 Oct 2011 10:36 |
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Doesnt look like there was a marriage. Think you need to get one of the childrens birth certs . sorry :-(
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13 Oct 2011 10:37 |
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Flick
that is walters parents and siblings
I can't find walter on the 1901
i presume he is married and with his wife seeing as their first child was born 1901 in st albans herts.
cheers
linda
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13 Oct 2011 10:40 |
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???????
Possibly too old...........but, if Frederick was her son......she'd have had to be around ten years older than Walter
Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%)
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JERRAM Rosa Ann 42 St Albans 3a 506
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Another child?
Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
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JERRAM Katie Emeline St Albans 3a 805
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Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Jerram Katie Emmeline 1 St. Albans 3a 406
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13 Oct 2011 10:45 |
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flick thanks for this info i hadnt seen it before
cheers linda
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13 Oct 2011 10:49 |
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This is the only possible for his stepson in 1901
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Name: Frederick Dearlove
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Walwroth, London, England
Civil parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Andrew
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Piece: 1316
Folio: 142
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Songchese 51
Sophia Songchese 51
Mary Songchese 23
Albert Songchese 22
Sarah Songchese 20
Frederick Dearlove 7
Marriages Sep 1874
Broyden Sophia Harriet Greenwich 1d 1217
Longclues Daniel Greenwich 1d 1217
LONGCLUSE Daniel Greenwich 1d 1217
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13 Oct 2011 10:53 |
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so if sophia broyden was the sister to frederick dearlove's mother then fredericks mothers maiden name could be broyden ?
if i look for a broyden marrying a jerram ?
am i right
linda
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13 Oct 2011 10:55 |
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Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Brogden Rosa Ann Fulham 1a 492
Dearlove Frederick Fulham 1a 492
Knight Alice Fulham 1a 492
Powers Charles Thomas Fulham 1a 492
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13 Oct 2011 11:02 |
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????
Deaths Sep 1899
Dearlove Frederick 35 Kensington 1a 131
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13 Oct 2011 11:04 |
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thank you so much.
do you think her surname was brogden or broyden?
cheers
linda
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13 Oct 2011 11:09 |
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Think it was Broyden but I think that Sophia was not Rosa's sister.
Births Dec 1849 BROYDEN Sophia Harriet Medway 5 411
Births Mar 1866 Broyden Rosa A Medway 2a 406
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