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Good Morning All,
Can anyone do a look-up in the 1861 census to find Amelia Newland. Found her under Newton in the 1851 census ! Thanks

Pam :-D

I'm confused already!

Do you mean this person??
Ancestry:
1851 England Census about Emily Newton
Name: Emily Newton
[Emily Newland]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Newton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hambleden, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Church
County/Island: Hampshire
Reg: District is Portsea Island
Piece: 1657
Folio: 498
Page Number: 32
George Newton 36
Emily Newton 31
Ann Newton 6
Emma Newton 4
Mary Newton 2
Eliza Newton 7 MO
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1657; Folio: 498; Page: 32

Maureen

Yeaph..thanks Maureen,
thats the 1851 census....you can now see why it took me ages to find the family....I think the emumerater was drunk !!! Now I am having the same trouble with the 1861 census.

Pam <3

is she Emily or Amelia?

Amelia Newland

It took you ages to find the family? Sorry-it's going to take us (helpers) a few more minutes to catch up!!

Geez!

I still don't understand how/why you know that the 1851 family is "yours".

Maureen

It was the childrens names and places of birth that corresponded with what I Know about the family. I have found their two oldest daughters for 1861. They are in service...........but cant' find Amelia and George Newland !

Many thanks for your work so far. I'ts driving me mad..so I thought someone may spot something I have missed !

Pam :-D

How do you know that they are not dead by 1861?
Have you found when they died?
Thanks

George newland married Amelia who?? and when.
Who is the child who is next in your line and when were they born?

There are lots of trees on ancestry stating that Amelia married William Hardy and died in Utah USA in 1896.

Amelia Newland joined the Mormons and move to Salt Lake City 1871 after the death of her father and leaving her husband George behind in Portsmouth. She took most of the children.

Pam :-D

The daughter Mary shows in the 1871 census, so must be there in the 1861 census.
Have you got George's 1871 census?
Also, what other children were alive in 1861?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Amelia Newland Name: Amelia Newland
Arrival Date: 25 Jul 1871
Birth Year: abt 1821
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Colorado

Travelling with;
Mary, 23
Sarah, 19
Georgina, 16

Amelia's father was 'who', where when did he die?

I assumed this was Mary in 1871 - so Amelia should also still be showing in 1871?
Mary Newland
Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Nurse
Gender: Female Where born: Kingstone, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Alverstoke County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Alverstoke Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 94 Piece: 1149 Folio: 111 Page Number: 25

Edmund Lunnon 55
Maria Lunnon 24
George Lunnon 2
Rosa M Lunnon 4
Albert Lunnon 2
Infant 1 Week
Mary Newland 22

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1149; Folio: 111; Page: 25; GSU roll: 827790.

Groom's Name: George Newland
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Amelia Knight
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1844
Marriage Place: Hambledon,Hampshire,England
Groom's Father's Name: William Newland
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Knight
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13661-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041207

I have tried to find Georgina, any Georgina, in 1861:
Births Sep 1855
Newland Georgina Portsea 2b 299
Was Amelia completely estranged from her husband and hiding from him?
Completely different names for the 'family'?

Added:
Cannot see husband in 1861, either, and as he comes from Windsor Berkshire and was living in Portsea in 1871 he is fairly obvious without any name in 1851.

Hi All....and thanks for your interest.
1. Patchem..................there is a possibility that Amelia was "hiding" from George Newland.......but I can't find him either. 1861
2. Amelia does not show up in the 1871 census, even though she did not leave England til July 1871
3. that could be daughter Mary in 1871. She did go with her mother in July. It could be that the family had broken up by 1871 I will check the 1871 for more of the children.
4. Yes.........I have George Newland in 1871 and Ann a daughter who remained in England.

Thanks again.
PS to Penny...father was thomas Knight but I have all his info thanks. It's just Amelia is elusive in 1861 and 1871 <3

I keep coming across this, but I cannot work out her martial status;

1871 England Census
about Amelia Newland Name: Amelia Newland
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ropley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Hale
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester St Mary
Town: Hale
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Fordingbridge
Sub-registration district: Fordingbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 1183
Folio: 87
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Geffedge 73
Jane Geffedge 75
Trena Geffedge 46
Sophia Scott Plummer 43
Charles Scott Plummer 49
Jane Eliza Plummer 12
Eliza Sophia Plummer 7
Charles Henry Plummer 11
Joseph Walter Plummer 9
Frances Dennes 55
Amelia Newland 50
Amanda Sterman 20
Mary Ann Miller 37
Elizabeth Ann Lome 22
Harriet Self 16
Alfred Miles 32
Edward Harrison Tame 22
Frederic Eyre 26
Marie Hoffhen 28
Elizabeth Whitby 55
Ellen Parsons 26
Martha Gayton 20

BatMans Daughter.................will look at this one. This could well be a group of Mormons traverling to US later. Has anyone got acess to the passenger list for "Colorada" going to New York 12 July 1871 :-D