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Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Nov 2011 21:38

Thanks anyway,Gwyn for your interest....and offer of help! It looks like it's been sorted out.

Kind Regards, Marg

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Nov 2011 21:25

Ah, ..I see Choccy's OH has already checked the marriage details and found that Henry was shown to be a bachelor.,
Well done.

Gwyn

Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Nov 2011 21:03

Thank you Choccy! Please thank your OH :) for taking the time to check that out for me!!

It certainly is looking as if the title, widower, was an error.

I really appreciate everyone's effort in helping me to unlock the past.....it's absolutely fascinating...watching it unfold.

:-)

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Nov 2011 14:15

My OH was in the Archives at Canterbury Cathedral this morning and took the opportunity to check the marriage of Henry Cox and Harriet Conley at Brabourne. The details were as follows
Date 28 May 1871
Henry Cox - Bachelor (Labourer)
Harriet Conley - Spinster
both of full age
Grooms father - Henry Cox (Labourer)
Brides father - Edward Conley (Farmer)
The witnesses were Edward Conley and Elizabeth Conley

So either the census was in error or the marriage detail was incorrect. As no marriage appears to have been found, to fit, it seems more likely that the census was incorrect and Henry was a bachelor when he married Harriet.

Hope this helps!

Choccy

Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Nov 2011 12:07

Hello again Kath,

No, I don't have Henry's Marriage Certificate, another relative gave me those dates. Nothing else is known by the family.

I'll keep on working on that one for a while then....

Thanks for getting back to me.

Kind Regards, Marg

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Nov 2011 11:18

Hi Margaret,

Do you have Henry's marriage certificate from when he married Harriet Conley?

If so does it give his marital status as "bachelor" or "widower". It's just that the 1871 census could just be wrong about him being a widower (although that IS what he is down as). I just can't see another marriage for him.

Kath. x

Margaret

Margaret Report 9 Nov 2011 08:21

Thank you Gwyn! I do have a bit of a puzzle at the moment.... though I'm not sure if you'll be able to help.

As Kathleen has already stated...Henry Cox ( son of Henry and Catherine (nee Hobday) born on 04.04.1842 in Kennington) appeared on the 1861 Census as umarried and living at Sturry Rd North Gate Canterbury,but on the 1871 Census he is listed as a widower, living at West St Faversham with the Conley Family. ( he went on to marry Harriet Conley on May 28th, 1871).

It would be good if you could uncover the name of Henry's first wife and when they married?
Though if that turns out to be too troublesome to find out the details....I will understand.

Thanks again for volunteering your help, Gwyn.

Kind Regards, Marg

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 8 Nov 2011 20:48

I'm not far from this part of Kent.... was in Brabourne last weekend. Saltwood is even nearer.

If you would like me to check any local parish registers please send specific requests and I will do my best to help.

Gwyn

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 14:42

Thanks Choccy. Good luck with your own Family research!

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2011 14:36

otp means of this parish in relation to the publication of Banns and yes they were the witnesses to the marriage. Names do change over the years but one has to bear in mind that the Rector/Curate could only record the name he heard from his parishioner. However, it is the case, in Monks Horton, that the name is consistently Cunley.

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 14:22

Choccy also backs up Kathleen Bells earlier information. So it all ties in nicely! Thanks again Kathleen.

If any Cox/Conley researchers can tell me the name of Henry Cox's first wife, whom he married sometime between 1861 and 1871, I would be grateful.
I'm happy to share the Cox Family Tree information ( after their 1853 arrival in Australia ) that I have.

Thanks again to everyone who responded to my request for information!

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 13:25

Thank you Choccy for all the trouble you've gone to!! It's just wonderful to receive all this assistance...!
It's very much appreciated!

Received your PM as well.Thoughtful of you.

Choccy, are you able to tell me what 'otp' means after the name Henry Cox and again after Catherine Hobday on their marriage entry?
I take it Anne Burton and Thomas Brenchly were the witnesses to the marriage?
Interesting how Cunley became Conley.....

Thank you again for all that wonderful information! You've made my day!

Kind Regards, Marg

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 13:10

Thank you Judith for your reply! It's marvellous receiving all these replies when I was up against a brick wall!

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2011 09:56

Some more Parish Register Entries that are of interest.

BAPTISMS
KENNINGTON
1840 12 Apr Ellinda COX D of Henry & Catherine Kennington (Tile-maker)
1842 15 May Henry COX S of Henry & Catherine Kennington (Tile-maker)
BOUGHTON ALUPH
1837 10 Sep Richard s/o Henry & Catharine COX Tile maker

MARRIAGE
BOUGHTON ALUPH
1837 30-Jan B Henry COX Ba otp Catharine HOBDAY Sp otp Anne Burton/ Thomas Brenchley

BAPTISMS
BOUGHTON ALUPH
1812 01 Nov Henry s/o James & Mary COX
1814 02 Oct Catherine d/o Thomas & Eliza HOBDAY Labourer

BAPTISM
BRABOURNE
1847 21-Mar Harriet CONLEY d/o Edward & Elizabeth Brabourne (Farmer)
As a note of interest Harriet had 10 siblings.

MARRIAGE
BRABOURNE
1833 13-Jul B Edward CONLEY Ba Brabourne Elizabeth HAYWARD Sp Brabourne John Hayward / William Stoakes

BAPTISM
ELMSTED
1815 May 7 Elizabeth d/o Thomas & Christiana HAYWARD

BAPTISM
MONKS HORTON
1810 14 Jan Edward s/o Edward & Mary CUNLEY
As a note of interest Edward had 8 siblings all baptised in Monks Horton with the surname Cunley.

Will PM just in case of non return.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 8 Nov 2011 06:02

Christening

parents:Henry Cox,? Catharine
name:Henry Cox
gender:Male
baptism/christening date:15 May 1842
baptism/christening place:Kennington, Kent, England
father's name:Henry Cox
mother's name:Catharine
indexing project (batch) number:I05155-0
system origin:England-EASy
source film number:

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 00:21

AND Kath! :-(

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 00:20

:-( oops E for East Ashford! Thanks Jax.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Nov 2011 00:17

I don't think Henry had a middle name. The "E" is for "East" of East Ashford - and you are right, this is the registration district that covers Kennington.

Kath. x

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Nov 2011 00:17

There appears to be a lot of Cox Family members living in Kent, in the 1800s.
I've also checked out a lot of Coxs in Kent, just by going through Google....to no avail.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Nov 2011 00:15

The June birth that jax posted just means that the birth was registered in the June quarter (so any birth in April, May or June would be registered in the June quarter.

Kath. x