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On another tack, John C Dickinson born Birmingham c1875, in Wednesbury in 1891 with his parental family:


census 1891

DICKINSON, John C Head Married M 45 1846 Cast Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Martha Wife Married F 46 1845 London
DICKINSON, Martha H Daughter Single F 19 1872 Laundress Manchester Lancashire
>>>>DICKINSON, John C Son Single M 16 1875 Coachwork Filer
Birmingham Warwickshire
DICKINSON, Rose H Daughter Single F 12 1879 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Joseph C Son Single M 9 1882 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Thomas W Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Harry R Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar Wednesbury
Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Cecil B Son Single M 3 1888 Wednesbury Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Ethel B Daughter Single F 0 (4M) 1891 Wednesbury
Staffordshire

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Piece:
2275 Folio:
49 Page:
13 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
West Bromwich Municipal Borough:
Wednesbury

ADDRESS
2, 4 Court, Ladburys Lane, West Bromwich, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

BIRTH OF JOHN C DICKINSON SENIOR?


Births Sep 1845
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DICKENSON John Cornelius W.Bromwich 18 545


MARRIAGE OF JOHN CORNELIUS SENIOR AND MARTHA?

Marriages Dec 1868
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Bissell Martha Birmingham 6d 246 Dickinson
John Cornelius Birmingham 6d 246

John Cornelius Dickinson Senior with parental family in census 1851:


census 1851:

DICKINSON, David Head Married M 36 1815 Filer West Bromwich Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1820 West Bromwich Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Lydia Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar West Bromwich
Staffordshire
>>>>DICKINSON, John Cornelius Son M 5 1846 West Bromwich
Staffordshire
DICKINSON, Mary Daughter F 1 1850 West Bromwich Staffordshire
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Piece:
2026 Folio:
341 Page:
5 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
West Bromwich Municipal Borough:

Address:
New Street, West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire



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Possible marriage for David and Elizabeth Dickinson????:


Marriages Mar 1840 (>99%)
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AVERN Catharine W. Bromwich 18 535
BARTON Hannah W. Bromwich 18 535
BROOKES John W. Bromwich 18 535
>>>DICKENSON David W. Bromwich 18 535
HUNT Ann W. Bromwich 18 535
Mumford Henry West Bromwich 18 535
ROGERS William W. Bromwich 18 535
>>>Stone Elizabeth West Bromwich 18 535

Birth of Martha Bissell, probable wife of John Cornelius Dickinson Senior???

Births Sep 1844
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Bissell Martha Whitechapel 2 519

Martha Bissell and parental family in census 1861, living in Birmingham, where she married John Cornelius Dickinson Sr.

NB, transcribed Bassell, but Bissell on the actual image:

Census 1861:

BASSELL, Charles Head Married M 45 1816 Gun Lock Maker West Bromwich Staffordshire
BASSELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 42 1819 Walton Staffordshire V
>>>>BASSELL, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Steel Pen Maker
London Middlesex
BASSELL, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Scholar London
Middlesex
BASSELL, Joseph Son M 12 1849 Scholar London Middlesex
BASSELL, Charles Son M 10 1851 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
BASSELL, Matilda Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Birmingham
BASSELL, Thomas Son M 3 1858 Scholar Birmingham

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Piece:
2155 Folio:
73 Page:
36 Registration District:
Birmingham

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:

Birmingham Address:
97, Moland Street, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

The IGI has an extracted record for the marriage of Charles Bissell to Elizabeth Lawrence:

Marriage: 09 MAY 1836 Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford, England

Handsworth comes under West Bromwich registration district, so this seems very likely.

There is a submitted IGI record for the baptism of an Elizabeth Stone at West Bromwich :

27 AUG 1820 West Bromwich, Stafford, England

Parents Isaac Stone and Hannah.

I can't find any record for the birth/baptism of David Dickinson c 1815 in the same area.

Possible marriage for William Rose and Susannah, parents of Mary Ann Rose who married Jacob Amos:


Marriages Dec 1852
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MASON Eliza W. Bromwich 6b 845
>>>Penn Susannah West Bromwich 6b 845
>>>Rose William West Bromwich 6b 845
YARDLEY William W Bromwich 6b 845
Yardley William West Bromwich 6b 845

William Rose in census 1841?


ROSE, William M 40 1801
ROSE, Ann F 40 1801 Staffordshire
ROSE, George M 15 1826 Staffordshire
ROSE, Caroline M 13 1828 Staffordshire
ROSE, Charles M 9 1832 Staffordshire
>>>ROSE, William M 6 1835 Staffordshire
ROSE, Mary F 0 (3 months) 1841 Staffordshire
WHITEHEAD, Ann F 70 1771 Staffordshire
WHITEHEAD, Joseph M 35 1806 Staffordshire

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Piece:
984 Book/Folio:
6/17 Page:
27 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:

Address:
Square, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Susannah Penn in 1841.

Father Joseph a blacksmith:

PENN, Joseph M 30 1811 Staffordshire
PENN, Sarah F 30 1811 Staffordshire
PENN, John M 10 1831 Staffordshire
PENN, Sarah F 8 1833 Staffordshire
PENN, Susanah F 6 1835 Staffordshire
PENN, Mary F 4 1837 Staffordshire
PENN, Joseph M 2 1839 Staffordshire
PENN, Elizabeth F 0 (1 months) 1841 Staffordshire

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Piece:
984 Book/Folio:
3/24 Page:
13 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:

Address:
Monway Field, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

Susannah Penn in census 1851?

JEVON, William Head Widower M 48 1803 Inn Keeper Employing 1 Man
Wednesbury Staffordshire
JEVON, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 House Keeper
Birmingham Warwickshire
PENN, Susannah Servant Unmarried F 16 1835 House Servant
Wednesbury Staffordshire

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Piece:
2027 Folio:
163 Page:
23 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough
Address:
High Street East Market Place East, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

William Rose in census 1851:

ROSE, William Head Married M 51 1800 Lab Gas Tube Manufactor Adenton Warwickshire
ROSE, Ann Wife Married F 51 1800 Wednesbury Staffordshire
ROSE, Charles Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Lab Gas Tube Works Wednesbury Staffordshire
>>>ROSE, William Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Lab At Iron Works
Wednesbury Staffordshire
ROSE, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire -

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Piece:
2027 Folio:
161 Page:
18 Registration District:
West Bromwich

Civil Parish:
Wednesbury Municipal Borough:

Address:
High Street East, Wednesbury County:
Staffordshire

PM from Elisabetta in regards to my question about putting Sarah and John in her tree -


"I haven't but I will. Doesn't seem to want names without birthdates and I'm not sure these are my line?? Should I put them in anyway?"


I asked her how had she got back to thinking they might be her line??

Sure hope after all this they DO turn out to be Elisabetta's line! :-S


Perhaps the link was Ethel Mary, the 'May' of census 1911?

Births Sep 1908
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Dickinson Ethel Mary W. Bromwich 6b 939


Can't find a birth for a 'May', or even a Mary.

Maybe a little certificate purchasing might be in order, but I hope Elisabetta can fill us in when she comes back to the thread. :-)

Just to keep you up to date. After a lot of help on this board I think I am on the correct track. Kucinta is a real star. I think I kept doubting too much when up against the odd year being out.

I do think May was an error because I know for sure it was Ethel Mary with the same siblings.

So much fits into place....Wednesbury is the big link.