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Wigfield possibly previously Wittenburg

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jax

jax Report 15 Nov 2011 15:56

She was probably still married thats why the children were registered in her hubands name aswell....even though he was not the father

jax

jax

jax Report 15 Nov 2011 15:53

William and his wife sarah (who died 1903) had this child

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Wigfield Mary Charlotte D Birkenhead 8a 511

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Cannot see what happened to her after 1901

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 15:49

Southall is Alicia Married name so god knows what was going on?

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 15:47

i know! i just told my nan and she said 'its like upstairs, downstairs'

jax

jax Report 15 Nov 2011 15:34

Cora was registered in Alicia's maiden name but it looks like the others were registered in the name of Southall and Wigfield so Alicia was more than the maid

Also you have been given Cora's baptism but this time she has been recorded as Wigfield

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 15:23

William was a butcher my nan said. She remembers the name Southall but was told that she was the maid?

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 11:50

I think the family in birkenhead

WIGFIELD, Thomas Son M 10 1901 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
SOUTHALL, John Son M 10 1901 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
WIGFIELD, Cora Daughter F 7 1904 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
WIGFIELD, Erick Son M 4 1907 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
WIGFIELD, Horris Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW

Thats definatly them. All the children are there. And the Alicia Southall went to New York... thats the same person who is registered as Cora's mother.

i to am confused about the name change.

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 11:44

It would make sense that Cora had a different name. I beleive she may have been from another marriage. I was given the name Eleanor by my nan but to be fair she said shes not a 100%. i'm confused ha!

Laura

Laura Report 15 Nov 2011 11:21

I am overwelled by the reponses! thank you all! I'm going to have a good read through all the posts when i finish work!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Nov 2011 01:11

I was also confused by the first post about the name being changed after the shop was bombed in the war.


which war?


Many people with Germanic names changed their names at the beginning of, or during, WW1, certainly not afterwards.

and bombs I think were more lielly to have been dropped in WW2.





sylvia

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 15 Nov 2011 00:16

Hmmm

A bit difficult to work out.

???
Births Jun 1904
Reddish Cora Malita Birkenhead 8a 494

Births Mar 1906
Reddish Jack Birkenhead 8a 541

Births Sep 1906
Wigfield Eric Birkenhead 8a 507

Births Jun 1906
Southall Eric Birkenhead 8a 607

Births Sep 1907
SOUTHALL Cyril Birkenhead 8a 489
Deaths Sep 1907
SOUTHALL Cyril 0 Birkenhead 8a 259

Births Sep 1910
WIGFIELD Horace Birkenhead 8a 479
Births Sep 1910
SOUTHALL Horace Birkenhead 8a 479




And this one is interesting too, but could be a relative.
Births Dec 1899
Southall Rhoda Maleita Birkenhead 8a 456

Deaths Jun 1901
Southall Rhoda Melita 1 Birkenhead 8a 313

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2011 23:47

jax, your comment made me wonder if I was following the right family, but it seems I am from his occupation. They've been Wigfields for a long time.

1901 England Census
Name: William J Wigfield
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son-in-Law
Spouse's Name: Sarah J Wigfield
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Tranmere St Catherine
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Park Grove

Occupation: Butcher Shopkeeper

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere

Piece: 3395
Folio: 90
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
William Atherton 72 - waterman on lighter
Mary A Atherton 60 - wife
William J Wigfield 30
Sarah J Wigfield 29 - daughter of William Atherton
Thomas Wigfield 27 - Son in law's brother
Mary C D Wigfield 4 - grand daughter
William Atherton 20 - son
William Atherton 14 - grandson



First (only) wife?
Deaths Mar 1903
WIGFIELD Sarah Jane 31 Birkenhead 8a 299


Brother
Births Jun 1873
Wigfield Thomas Wilson Birkenhead 8a 506

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2011 23:31

name: Anne Rebecca Wigfield
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 May 1830
baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1


name: William George Wigfield
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Nov 1832
baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1


name: Charles Spenser Wigfield
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Nov 1835
baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1

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name: Thomas Wilson Wigfield
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Mar 1836
baptism/christening place: Tickhill, York, England
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I03301-7
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name: Anne Maria Wigfield
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 Oct 1837
baptism/christening place: HICKLETON,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C00739-2


name: Emma Wigfield
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 23 Oct 1842
baptism/christening place: HICKLETON,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: William Wigfield
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C00739-2

jax

jax Report 14 Nov 2011 23:28

Your grandmother was born before the war and was registered as Wigfield

So why have you been told they changed there name after they war?

Sounds like some strange family story to me

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Nov 2011 23:26

I wonder if this is Alicia going to America??
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Alicia Southall
Name: Alicia Southall
Arrival Date: 1 Jun 1921
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: prescot
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caronia

Housekeeper born Prescot. Gives contact in UK as Mrs Hughes 5?3 Lord Street Birkenhead. Going to New York City. She seems to be traveling with her sister and her family?? I can't work out the relationships!!!

Maureen

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2011 23:26

1851 England Census
Name: Thomas William [Thomas William Wigfield] [Thomas Wigfield]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Wigfield
Mother's Name: Ann Wigfield
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Harworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Hickleton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hickleton

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Tickhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 2346
Folio: 147
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wigfield 50 - farmer of 300 acres employing 4 labourers; Adwick Le Street, Yorkshire
Ann Wigfield 50 - Tickhill, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Wigfield 22 - Thorne, Yorkshire
William George Wigfield 18 - Harworth, Nottinghamshire
Thomas William 15 [William has been incorrectly transcribed as his surname instead of middle name. Other children then given same surname.]
Anne William 13 - Hickleton, Yorkshire
Emma William 8 - Hickleton, Yorkshire
John William 4 - Hickleton, Yorkshire
Eliza Kaye 60 visitor; Annuitant; Hoyland, Yorkshire
Hannah Wales 20 - servant
Joseph Hanson 18 - servant
Charles Crooks 17 - servant

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2011 23:12

1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Wigfield
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Hickleton
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hickleton

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Barnborough

Piece: 1327
Book: 10
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wigfield 40 - farmer
Ann Wigfield 40
William Wigfield 9
Charles Wigfield 7
Thomas Wigfield 5
Ann Wigfield 3

jax

jax Report 14 Nov 2011 23:05

1871 census - household transcription
Person: WIGFIELD, Thomas
Address: Duncan Street, Liverpool


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WIGFIELD, Thomas Head M 34 1837 Yorkshire VIEW
WIGFIELD, Charlotte Wife F 30 1841 Flintshire VIEW
WIGFIELD, William J Son M 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW

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Name: Thomas William Wigfield
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 334 (click to see others on page)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2011 23:03

1871 England Census
Name: Charlotte Wigfield
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Wigfield
Gender: Female
Where born: Mostyn, Flintshire, Wales
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas

Street Address: 24 Duncan St

Piece: 3778
Folio: 35
Page Number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wigfield 34 - Brewer's Drayman; born Hickleton, Yorkshire
Charlotte Wigfield 30
Williams Wigfield 1 - born Liverpool, Lancashire

These are incorrectly attached to the Wigfields. They live at 22 Duncan St.
Thomas Foxwell 73
Joseph Curtis 40
Mary Curtis 40

jax

jax Report 14 Nov 2011 22:59

Name: Thomas Wilson Wigfield
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 9 Jan 1870
Parish: Liverpool St David
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Roberts
Father's Name: William Wigfield
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Roberts