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Robinsons & Wests of Rotherhithe london

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patchem

patchem Report 28 Nov 2011 18:16

These are Stanley Robinson's born in Brentford, St Olave Bermondsey , Staines, Uxbridge, Willesden from 1915 to 1925
Births Mar 1916
Robinson Stanley H Peto Brentford 3a 332
Births Dec 1924
ROBINSON Stanley H THOMAS Uxbridge 3a 91
and these are Dorthy's born in the same area and time:
Births Jun 1916
Robinson Dorothy W Dowdy Brentford 3a 247
Births Jun 1919
Robinson Dorothy R Needham Staines 3a 19
Births Jun 1925
Robinson Dorothy K Siney Staines 3a 32
Robinson Dorothy M West St.Olave 1d 312
Unfortunately no overlap.

John

John Report 28 Nov 2011 12:07

Hi all
\
Ok I rang Aunt Doll, unfortunately she can't remember what Thomas did for a living. the area that I think were looking at is Southall and Bermonsey, but I'll have to confirm some more details

I'll ask my mum later this week, and I hope to have some more paperwork too.

Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 27 Nov 2011 17:11

I have looked for all marriages of Florence to Thomas Robinson, 1911 to 1925.
I then looked for all births of children with those surnames in the wider London area.
This is all I can find for Dorothy and Stanley, and is probably showing because Clark is also a common surname so the results are from different marriages
Marriages Sep 1911
Barrett Elizabeth L Uxbridge 3a 110
xxx CLARK Florence E Uxbridge 3a 110
Gibbs John C Uxbridge 3a 110
xxx Robinson Thomas C Uxbridge 3a 110

Births Dec 1924
ROBINSON Dorothy M CLARK Wandsworth 1d 764

Births Sep 1921
Robinson Stanley Clark Shoreditch 1c 37

And Dorothy is the wrong age.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Nov 2011 13:34

Wonder if this is RH in 1911 (age a bit out though)?

JORY, Grace Elizabeth Head Married F 67 1844 House Wife Penzance Cornll
GREEN, Frederick James Boarder Married M 69 1842 Retired Mason Cornwall Born in Paul Parish
ROBINSON, Richard Henry Boarder Single M 27 1884 Motor Car Driver Paddington London
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Registration District: Penzance
Sub District: Penzance
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Penzance in Madron

Address: 5 Boase's Row Wherrytown Penzance County: Cornwall

John

John Report 27 Nov 2011 12:59

Hi Vera

I'll ask her tomorrow.

thanks again.

john

John

John Report 27 Nov 2011 12:45

My aunty Doll (Aunty Doll is the daughter of Richard Henry Robinson) was in Rotherhithe, Bermonsey, She said she stayed in Southall with Florence and Thomas( Richards brother) in 1940.

Thomas and Florence had two kids called Dorothy and Stanley they were a few years older than my aunt doll (31/5/1925)

I don't know when Richard Henry Robinson died, but he did have nine children:-

Beatrice BD ???

Then he had five children die between 1919~1925
Two of those that died names were Mary and Caroline.

Aunt Doll BD 1925
Gladys BD 1929
Stanley BD ???



Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2011 12:26

Hi John,
Does your Aunty Doll know what occupation Thomas held please?

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2011 12:13

Hi,
Richard Henry's occupation on his marriage certificate was Carman.

Regards Vera

patchem

patchem Report 27 Nov 2011 12:04

Do you know when Richard Henry Robinson died?
What was his occupation on the marriage certificate?
Thanks

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2011 12:00

Hi John,
You stated "they would be safer at home". Where was home please?

Regards Vera

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Nov 2011 11:56

Hi John, that's useful but there are huge numbers of births.

To narrow it down can you at least confirm what part of the country - were they all from the London area?

John

John Report 27 Nov 2011 11:15

Hi

I've been in contact with my mums sister Dorothy (I call her Aunty Doll and she was born in 1925) and here's what she has:-


Richard Robinsons brother was called Tomas & his wife called Florence and she stayed for a short while with them during the war in Southall London, as it was supposed to be safer - she was bombed a few times and decided it was safer at home!!

Thomas\Florences daughter Dorothy was a few years older than Aunt Doll so Tom & Florences Dorothy was born ~1921 ish.

Does this help?



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Nov 2011 21:57

John, what area would brother & Florence's children be born? - the records will show Florence's maiden name. We can then try to trace a marriage to get brother's first name.

John

John Report 25 Nov 2011 21:33

Sorry dont know his brothers name, but My mum thinks he married a lady called "Florence" and they had two kids called Stanly and Dorothy Robinson.

Dates unknown.

What I do know :-

R. H. Robinson had children Beatrice sept 1912, Caroline 1913, Mary 1917, Gladys 1929, and also like his brother a Dorothy 1925, & Stanley 1927.

No kids during the WWI, we think he was in the cavalry!, or at least horse related.

Stanley and Dorothy are named in both lines, so they may be grand parents names?.

I've been told previously that the "burnt records" may help, but at that time "R" had not been microfilmed.

I hope to get some paperwork on a previous attempt at finding him in the next day or so, as soon as I get it I'll post any info.

Thanks again

Vera

Vera Report 25 Nov 2011 17:18

Hi John,
Unfortunately you cannot always believe what is stated on marriage certificates.

Not having much luck with your R. H. Robinson. Do you know his brothers name please?

Regards Vera


John

John Report 24 Nov 2011 13:07

Thank you so much, its midnight here in Oz and I'm now wide awake, and spotting caroline brady was such a find too!!

Richard Henry Robinson is a bit of a mystery, Do you think he may have got his fathers name wrong on the marriage certificate, is that likely?

From my mums recollection he was in the first world war, looked after horses (groom), with a dark Kahki uniform, and his brother had two kids call Dorothy and Stanley Robinson.




I want to wake the wife up and show her whats been found, But I don't think I'm that brave :-)
Thank you

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2011 10:28

Thanks Vera.........thats good then!! :-)

Vera

Vera Report 24 Nov 2011 10:04

PH,
You have the right Mary West in 1911 as one of the witness' of her marriage to Richard was a Caroline Brady.

regards vera

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2011 09:33

??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: WEST, Mary
Address: 66 Watergate St Deptford


WHITEWOOD, William Head Married M 32 1879 Carman To Contractor Kent Deptford VIEW
WHITEWOOD, Alice Wife Married
9 years F 29 1882 Middlesex Bethnal Green VIEW
WHITEWOOD, William Son M 8 1903 Surrey Bermondsey VIEW
WHITEWOOD, Henry Son M 5 1906 Kent Deptford VIEW
WHITEWOOD, Alice Margaret Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Kent Deptford VIEW
BRADY, Caroline Visitor Single F 19 1892 Tin Box Maker Surrey Bermondsey VIEW
WEST, Mary Visitor Single F 19 1892 Tin Box Maker Surrey Bermondsey VIEW
LINCOLN, Alfred Boarder Single M 34 1877 Carman To Contractor Surrey Camberwell VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2639 Reference:
RG14PN2639 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED16 SN41

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford East Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
St Nicholas Deptford

Address:
66 Watergate St Deptford County:
London

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2011 09:30

???

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SUMMERS, Caroline
Address: 56 Tilson Road Peckham S E

SUMMERS, Henry Head Married M 28 1883 Dock Labourer Surrey New X VIEW
SUMMERS, Caroline Wife Married F 25 1886 Bottle Washer Surrey New X VIEW
SUMMERS, Caroline Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Peckham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2526 Reference:
RG14PN2526 RG78PN85 RD27 SD4 ED7 SN108

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
56 Tilson Road Peckham S E County:
London