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Looking for the marriage's of William marsh.
William was born in Atherton lanc's his father was James marsh.
In 1850 William had a daughter Elizabeth .
In 1853 William marsh married Mary Scholes 31/07/1853 in Wigan .I have found one daughter for William and Mary she is Martha J Marsh born 1876.
Have looked for the mother of Elizabeth with the father William , but can't confirm a mother.
Have looked at all the census and I seem to find more marriage's for William than is plausable .
Any help to find Elizabeth's mother and any more family for William and Mary Scholes would be great.
Hope I have given enough info .
Marlene

just wondering if this could be possible ????
Marriage: 14 Aug 1848 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Marsh - (X), 42 Weaver Widower of Wigan
Elizabeth Wareing - (X), 32 Spinster of Wigan
Groom's Father: James Marsh, Dead
Bride's Father: John Wareing, Dead
Witness: Thomas Golding, (X); Margaret Marsh, (X)
Married by Banns by: G.D.Haughton Curate
Register: Marriages 1848 - 1849, Page 66, Entry 131
Source: LDS Film 1885695

again supposition
Burial: 28 Mar 1852 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Marsh -
Age: 41 years
Abode: Pemberton
Buried by: Geo. Huntington Clerk in Orders
Register: Burials 1848 - 1853, Page 331, Entry 2646
Source: LDS Film 1885702
birth dates a bit out

Are you sure about Martha b1876? 1st child born after 23 years of marriage seems a bit unusual.

Dont know if this helps.


groom's name: William Marsh
groom's birth date: 1830
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Elizabeth Smethurst
bride's birth date: 1829
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 26
marriage date: 24 Apr 1855
marriage place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: James Marsh
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Willan
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Widowed
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00652-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885697
reference number: P 219, No. 437

or this.

groom's name: William Marsh
groom's birth date: 1826
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 27
bride's name: Mary Scholes
bride's birth date: 1831
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 31 Jul 1853
marriage place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: James Marsh
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: George Scholes
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00652-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885697
reference number: P 106, No.211

and another
groom's name: William Marsh
groom's birth date: 1806
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 42
bride's name: Elizabeth Wareing
bride's birth date: 1816
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 32
marriage date: 14 Aug 1848
marriage place: Parish Church, Wigan, Lancaster, England
groom's father's name: James Marsh
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Wareing
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Widowed
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00924-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885695
reference number: pt3 pg66 cn131

Thankyou Maddie and Potty have noted everything down.
Have found Martha J 1876 parents william and Mary .
Hope that is right .Was hoping to find children just after the 1853 marriage ,no luck yet .
marlene

lancsbmd has several births in the area for Marsh children with MMN Scholes between 1853 and 1870.

This looks like the family in 1871:

1871 England Census
about James Marsh
Name: James Marsh
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Marsh
Mother's Name: Mary Marsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Haigh, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Haigh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 3883
Folio: 113
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
William Marsh 45
Mary Marsh 39
James Marsh 17
Margaret Marsh 16
Jane Marsh 15
George Marsh 12
Alice Marsh 8
Elizabeth Marsh 3

William seems to have been a bachelor when he married Mary Scholes:

Marriage: 31 Jul 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Marsh - (X), 27 Servant Bachelor of Haigh
Mary Scholes - (X), 22 Spinster of Haigh
Groom's Father: James Marsh, Deceased
Bride's Father: George Scholes, Farmer
Witness: George Scholes; Isabella Laithwaite
Married by Banns by: Geo.Huntington Clerk in Orders
Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 106, Entry 211
Source: LDS Film 1885697

Thankyou peter
Have just found the marriage of William and Elizabeth wareing .I have Mary Scholes hopefully the correct wife of wiilaim .Elizabeth Smethurst I also had down as a wife but unsure about her .
Goodness knows how many times William married it's getting the right wives??
marlene

You are correct with the names of Williams siblings .
Thanks to everyone who has answered I think I may the correct marriage and family .
William and Mary Scholes .
I hope so I have been searching all this for ages
Marlene

There is no birth for Martha J Marsh in 1875 or 1876

Where did you get your info about her?

You've given William's birthplace....but no idea of birth year.....nor of the birth year of Mary Scholes

? birth
MARSH, Martha Jane
Registration District: Help Wigan
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 8C
Page No: Help 114

Marriage: 31 Jul 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Marsh - (X), 27 Servant Bachelor of Haigh
Mary Scholes - (X), 22 Spinster of Haigh
Groom's Father: James Marsh, Deceased
Bride's Father: George Scholes, Farmer
Witness: George Scholes; Isabella Laithwaite
Married by Banns by: Geo.Huntington Clerk in Orders
Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 106, Entry 211
Source: LDS Film 1885697

From LancsBMD


1853

MARSH James Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/9/408

1855

MARSH Margaret Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/10/299

1856

MARSH Jane Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/11/134

1858

MARSH George Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/12/347

1860

MARSH Mary Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/13/345

1862

MARSH Alice Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/15/164

1866

MARSH Emma Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/18/417

1868

MARSH Elizabeth Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/20/177

1872

MARSH Thomas Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/24/447


NO Martha......................

1871 census for the Marsh/Scholes family

Name: William Marsh
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Marsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Heath Charnock, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Haigh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 3883
Folio: 113
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
William Marsh 45 Occ: Ag Lab
Mary Marsh 39
James Marsh 17
Margaret Marsh 16
Jane Marsh 15
George Marsh 12
Alice Marsh 8
Elizabeth Marsh 3

Marlene.............

Can I ask you to tell us how you worked back to this man?

Which of his children is your proven direct line?

The only way to research properly is to start from the present, and work backwards...........trying to do it in the opposite direction is almost always doomed to failure

There is a totally different William Marsh on the 1851 census with an 11 month old daughter named Elizabeth, and wife Mary

The Martha Jane b1874 had a mmn of Higham:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MARSH Martha Jane Pemberton Wigan & Leigh HIGHAM PEM/33/328

and this is possibly her parents' marriage:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MARSH William HIGHAM Isabella St. John,Pemberton Wigan & Leigh