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Marlene
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24 Nov 2011 13:56 |
Looking for the marriage's of William marsh. William was born in Atherton lanc's his father was James marsh. In 1850 William had a daughter Elizabeth . In 1853 William marsh married Mary Scholes 31/07/1853 in Wigan .I have found one daughter for William and Mary she is Martha J Marsh born 1876. Have looked for the mother of Elizabeth with the father William , but can't confirm a mother. Have looked at all the census and I seem to find more marriage's for William than is plausable . Any help to find Elizabeth's mother and any more family for William and Mary Scholes would be great. Hope I have given enough info . Marlene
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Maddie
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24 Nov 2011 14:12 |
just wondering if this could be possible ???? Marriage: 14 Aug 1848 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Marsh - (X), 42 Weaver Widower of Wigan Elizabeth Wareing - (X), 32 Spinster of Wigan Groom's Father: James Marsh, Dead Bride's Father: John Wareing, Dead Witness: Thomas Golding, (X); Margaret Marsh, (X) Married by Banns by: G.D.Haughton Curate Register: Marriages 1848 - 1849, Page 66, Entry 131 Source: LDS Film 1885695
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Maddie
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24 Nov 2011 14:16 |
again supposition Burial: 28 Mar 1852 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Marsh - Age: 41 years Abode: Pemberton Buried by: Geo. Huntington Clerk in Orders Register: Burials 1848 - 1853, Page 331, Entry 2646 Source: LDS Film 1885702 birth dates a bit out
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Potty
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24 Nov 2011 14:22 |
Are you sure about Martha b1876? 1st child born after 23 years of marriage seems a bit unusual.
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petehayward
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24 Nov 2011 14:24 |
Dont know if this helps.
groom's name: William Marsh groom's birth date: 1830 groom's birthplace: groom's age: 25 bride's name: Elizabeth Smethurst bride's birth date: 1829 bride's birthplace: bride's age: 26 marriage date: 24 Apr 1855 marriage place: Wigan, Lancashire, England groom's father's name: James Marsh groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: John Willan bride's mother's name: groom's race: groom's marital status: Single groom's previous wife's name: bride's race: bride's marital status: Widowed bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M00652-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1885697 reference number: P 219, No. 437
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petehayward
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24 Nov 2011 14:26 |
or this.
groom's name: William Marsh groom's birth date: 1826 groom's birthplace: groom's age: 27 bride's name: Mary Scholes bride's birth date: 1831 bride's birthplace: bride's age: 22 marriage date: 31 Jul 1853 marriage place: Wigan, Lancashire, England groom's father's name: James Marsh groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: George Scholes bride's mother's name: groom's race: groom's marital status: Single groom's previous wife's name: bride's race: bride's marital status: Single bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M00652-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1885697 reference number: P 106, No.211
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petehayward
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24 Nov 2011 14:29 |
and another groom's name: William Marsh groom's birth date: 1806 groom's birthplace: groom's age: 42 bride's name: Elizabeth Wareing bride's birth date: 1816 bride's birthplace: bride's age: 32 marriage date: 14 Aug 1848 marriage place: Parish Church, Wigan, Lancaster, England groom's father's name: James Marsh groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: John Wareing bride's mother's name: groom's race: groom's marital status: Widowed groom's previous wife's name: bride's race: bride's marital status: Single bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M00924-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1885695 reference number: pt3 pg66 cn131
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Marlene
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24 Nov 2011 14:30 |
Thankyou Maddie and Potty have noted everything down. Have found Martha J 1876 parents william and Mary . Hope that is right .Was hoping to find children just after the 1853 marriage ,no luck yet . marlene
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Potty
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24 Nov 2011 14:30 |
lancsbmd has several births in the area for Marsh children with MMN Scholes between 1853 and 1870.
This looks like the family in 1871:
1871 England Census about James Marsh Name: James Marsh Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Marsh Mother's Name: Mary Marsh Gender: Male Where born: Haigh, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Haigh County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Aspull ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 3883 Folio: 113 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age William Marsh 45 Mary Marsh 39 James Marsh 17 Margaret Marsh 16 Jane Marsh 15 George Marsh 12 Alice Marsh 8 Elizabeth Marsh 3
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Potty
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24 Nov 2011 14:35 |
William seems to have been a bachelor when he married Mary Scholes:
Marriage: 31 Jul 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Marsh - (X), 27 Servant Bachelor of Haigh Mary Scholes - (X), 22 Spinster of Haigh Groom's Father: James Marsh, Deceased Bride's Father: George Scholes, Farmer Witness: George Scholes; Isabella Laithwaite Married by Banns by: Geo.Huntington Clerk in Orders Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 106, Entry 211 Source: LDS Film 1885697
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Marlene
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24 Nov 2011 14:37 |
Thankyou peter Have just found the marriage of William and Elizabeth wareing .I have Mary Scholes hopefully the correct wife of wiilaim .Elizabeth Smethurst I also had down as a wife but unsure about her . Goodness knows how many times William married it's getting the right wives?? marlene
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Marlene
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24 Nov 2011 15:05 |
You are correct with the names of Williams siblings . Thanks to everyone who has answered I think I may the correct marriage and family . William and Mary Scholes . I hope so I have been searching all this for ages Marlene
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:05 |
There is no birth for Martha J Marsh in 1875 or 1876
Where did you get your info about her?
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:07 |
You've given William's birthplace....but no idea of birth year.....nor of the birth year of Mary Scholes
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jansmith
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24 Nov 2011 16:10 |
? birth MARSH, Martha Jane Registration District: Help Wigan County: Lancashire Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: Help 8C Page No: Help 114
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:10 |
Marriage: 31 Jul 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Marsh - (X), 27 Servant Bachelor of Haigh Mary Scholes - (X), 22 Spinster of Haigh Groom's Father: James Marsh, Deceased Bride's Father: George Scholes, Farmer Witness: George Scholes; Isabella Laithwaite Married by Banns by: Geo.Huntington Clerk in Orders Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 106, Entry 211 Source: LDS Film 1885697
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:18 |
From LancsBMD
1853
MARSH James Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/9/408
1855
MARSH Margaret Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/10/299
1856
MARSH Jane Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/11/134
1858
MARSH George Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/12/347
1860
MARSH Mary Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/13/345
1862
MARSH Alice Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/15/164
1866
MARSH Emma Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/18/417
1868
MARSH Elizabeth Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/20/177
1872
MARSH Thomas Aspull Wigan & Leigh SCHOLES ASPL/24/447
NO Martha......................
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:23 |
1871 census for the Marsh/Scholes family
Name: William Marsh Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Marsh Gender: Male Where born: Heath Charnock, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Haigh County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Aspull ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 3883 Folio: 113 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age William Marsh 45 Occ: Ag Lab Mary Marsh 39 James Marsh 17 Margaret Marsh 16 Jane Marsh 15 George Marsh 12 Alice Marsh 8 Elizabeth Marsh 3 Marlene.............
Can I ask you to tell us how you worked back to this man?
Which of his children is your proven direct line?
The only way to research properly is to start from the present, and work backwards...........trying to do it in the opposite direction is almost always doomed to failure
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Flick
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24 Nov 2011 16:28 |
There is a totally different William Marsh on the 1851 census with an 11 month old daughter named Elizabeth, and wife Mary
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Potty
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24 Nov 2011 16:33 |
The Martha Jane b1874 had a mmn of Higham:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference MARSH Martha Jane Pemberton Wigan & Leigh HIGHAM PEM/33/328
and this is possibly her parents' marriage:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference MARSH William HIGHAM Isabella St. John,Pemberton Wigan & Leigh
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