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Clover

Clover Report 2 Dec 2011 01:36


Marriage Age
Until 1972 when a law was passed that both men and women could not wed until the age of 16, Irish females could legally be wed at age 12 and males at age 14. While most women married around the age of 20, pre-famine brides were often younger.


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Copied from
http://maggieblanck.com/Mayopages/Customs.html
Then scroll down to
Customs in Ireland
scroll down to Marraige age to read.
Now the legal age is 18 years.

One of my friends married after leaving National School which is usually 12/13 years old.She married in 1964 and is still happly married.
Betty.

Clover

Clover Report 1 Dec 2011 23:23

found these although not Civil Births.

Elizabeth Moorehouse
Birth 7th August 1872
Enniscorthy
Father William Moorehouse
Mother Bridget Cash.
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Elizabeth Moorehouse
Birth 25th Feb. 1870
Enniscorthy
Father John Moorehouse
Mother Mary Carty.
Betty.
EDIT
Civil Births.

Elizabeth Moorehouse
Enniscorthy
1870
Volumn 4
Page 822
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Birth
Elizabeth Moorehouse
Enniscorthy
1872
Volumn 14
Page 724.

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 21:48

Thanks Betty..will wait to hear if you find any proof of that age thing

Do you have any experience of someone geting married at such a young age?

x

Clover

Clover Report 1 Dec 2011 21:13

Hi Ginny, i am sorry i don,t know where you might google it but i was born in wexford (1949) and live in Dublin. My mother was married at 17 years (birthday) July married in August, she was on Marraige cert as minor.
I will try to find out where you can get proof and let you know though.
Reards,
Betty.

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 21:01

Hi Betty

Youre not butting in at all.

Could you post the legal ref to this as I would be very interested as my family are from Ireland and it may well help me

Yours

Selfish!

Clover

Clover Report 1 Dec 2011 20:45

Hi Everyone, may i butt in here and say that people here in Ireland up to about 1960ish could marry at age (Legal) boys 14 years old and girls at 12 years old, and as Cash, Connors and Moorehouse families were Tinsmiths, more than likely they did marry at that age.
Regards,
Betty.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2011 19:30

I agree she needs to clarify some of her details as there are also Connors living on Hospital Lane ...not least a Philip and family at No 10 (1911)

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 19:23

OK I think I get that, I thought his mom was listed on the record

There are other Michael Connor(s) in Wexford which could make it confusing!

Blonde you still need to stick to the facts though, as the marriage Root posted cant be correct if they were born in 1861. I know people may have married young but surley not at 12/13yrs

Maybe if you (Blonde) posted the info that is factual and we worked back, that might help?

Never give up



:-) :-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2011 19:12

Ginny....The Michael above (WW1) is I believe the son of Jer.and Eliz. 1911 Census..
He is at home but listed as in RIR...

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 18:27

If this is the service record (I cant see any other it could be?) it doesnt mention his mother....maybe I do have the wrong record or am getting confused!

Could you post the correct one that shows his moms details

NOK is his wife Bridget Carny (although Im not sure of her maiden name?) and two children Bridget & Jeramiah


British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Michael Connor
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age at enlistment: 24
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 2594
Regiment Name: 18 R I Regiment
Number of images: 3


Rootgatherer makes a very good point and is trying to ensure that you have a tree that is correct as I do too.

Edit: The address on the record says No 8 Hospital Lane Enniscorthy Co Wexford

blondedays

blondedays Report 1 Dec 2011 16:21

hi i found out about them on my grandfathers world war 1 record it said he lived at shannon hill but only through the cencus the same people and him is on it but i dont know if thease births and dates are right

blondedays

blondedays Report 1 Dec 2011 16:21

hi i found out about them on my grandfathers world war 1 record it said he lived at shannon hill but only through the cencus the same people and him is on it but i dont know if thease births and dates are right

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Dec 2011 16:07

I agree Ginny. I think Blondedays needs to tell us how she got back to them. Otherwise it could be another worthless ficticious tree in the making.

It just doesn't work by taking facts and making them fit!


Blondedays can you tell us where you got Elizabeth's maiden surname please?


blondedays

blondedays Report 1 Dec 2011 16:05

hi i think because they could not read x write they could be a few years out i do know it was not uncommon to marrey very young the son michael is my grandfather and i only found out recently that his mother was elizabeth moorehouse through my mother

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 15:44

Hi

Thats the point I was making.

How could they have married in 1874 if they were born in 1861....it would have made them 13 years old when they married

blondedays

blondedays Report 1 Dec 2011 15:18

Hi working it out i make Jeramiah and Elizabeth to be born 1861 thankyou

Gee

Gee Report 1 Dec 2011 13:30

Looking at those census records would mean that they were born 1861c so they couldnt have married in 1874

You did say in your opening post that he was born about 1871 so I posted the possible birth record...not sure if youve seen it as you havent commented?

You need to work out the dates and it might help to know how you have got to the couple?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2011 12:58

If you check out the 1901/1911 Irish Census you will find the Moorehouse' and Connors families living Shannon Hill...next to Jer.is bro John and family and Chris Moorhouse..relative (lodger) up the st.are Moorhouse families

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Dec 2011 12:51

Details here on ordering the certificates from Ireland.

http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

blondedays

blondedays Report 1 Dec 2011 12:32

hi dose anyone know how i can get to see the registrations do i have to order or contact ireland