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Right That seems likely I did notice Stewart Signed

Sorted

I've looked for births also marriages to see if a Brown or Woodhouse married a Clegg but found nothing

There is another May Clegg born 1906 with parents of Samuel and Catherine so I would think that is her birth MC

What could of happened, was she was staying with her grandparents but her parents still added her to their census form

jax

Edit- It was stewart Brown who filled the form in so she was a neice to him

It's this 1911 jax:

BROWN, John Head Married M 55 1856 House Painter Lancs Manchester Lacashire
BROWN, Jane Ann Wife Married 35 years F 55 1856 None Lancs Manchester Lancs
BROWN, Stewart Son Single M 21 1890 Wood Packing Case Maker Lancs Manchester
BROWN, Bertha Daughter Single F 18 1893 Grey Cloth Hooker Lancs Manchester
BROWN, Jane Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 Machinist Lancs Manchester VIEW
BROWN, Robert Son Single M 15 1896 Cartboy Lancs Manchester
BROWN, Albert Son M 10 1901 Shool Lancs Manchester
>>CLEGG, May Niece F 4 1907 School Lancs Manchester
BROWN, Ethel Daughter F 13 1898 School Lancs Manchester
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Registration District: Manchester
Sub District: Central
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Manchester

Address: 38 Scott St Ancoats Manchester County: Lancashire

(Unless she was staying at grans and was mis-recorded there as niece, and her parents listed her at their own place? Doubt it though)

Could be this birth:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1906
Clegg May Manchester 8d 261

It was on 1911 census for Jane Ann Brown nee Woodhouse b 1856 Manchester & John Brown 1856 her husband

This couple are the parents of Kezia Brown who is the mother of Vera

As I read it it said May Clegg aged 4 Niece she was just above Ethel 13
I'll check it again

Just checked it and it is as I said

John Brown 55 house Painter
Jane Ann w 55
Stewart 21
Bertha 18
Jane Ann 17
Robert 15
Albert 10
May Clegg 4
Etheln13

You're best to magnify the images 4 clicks, then save them.

1910 http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po331unit#page/n565/mode/1up
1920 http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu413unit#page/n1133/mode/1up
1930 http://www.archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel566#page/n874/mode/1up

Don't know the significance, but I stumbled across a nearby David Overholser:
1910 http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po331unit#page/n566/mode/1up

Where does it say May Clegg 1907 neice? Ethel May is listed as daughter

This is her birth

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
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CLEGG Ethel May Manchester 8d 218

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And that's about it!

Still need to find out about May Clegg .........

Richard Leon's graduation?

http://www.sterlingpublicschools.org/shs/gradprog/1931.pdf

Quite possibly Richard Leon's father's death:

Social Security Death Index

Name: James Overholser
SSN: 331-32-1268
Last Residence: 61081 Sterling, Whiteside, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 23 Jan 1879
Died: Jun 1967
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1955-1956)

Wow every time I think you've finished their 's more, think I'll have to print all this out so I don't miss anything

Thank you

Richard with family in 1920 (have removed other siblings in case still alive)

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Richard Overholzer [Richard Overholser]
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1920: Genesee, Whiteside, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: James C Overholzer
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Name: Lena L Overholzer
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky

Household Members: Name Age
James C Overholzer 40
Lena L Overholzer 37

Richard Overholzer 6

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

Name: Richard L Overholser
Birth Year: 1913
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Illinois
State of Residence: Illinois
County or City: Whiteside

Enlistment Date: 13 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Illinois
Enlistment City: Chicago
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Machinists
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 76
Weight: 163

Thank you yet again

Where do you get all this info from I know it's an age thing but I get so far and then the wall comes up,
as you say the children could still be living

This will keep me quiet for a bit putting it into place

Sylvia

I believe this is Vera's husband:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Richard L. Overholser
SSN: 334-05-8190
Last Residence: 44109 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States of America
Born: 7 Mar 1913
Died: 3 May 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)

I believe the L stands for Leon (used other sources)

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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007

Name: Richard L Overholser
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1913
Birth State: Illinois
Birth Country: United States
Gender: Male
Race: White
Hispanic Origin: Not Hispanic (Latino)
Death Date: 3 May 1998
Death Time: 03:34 AM
Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities
City of Death: Lakewood
County of Death: Cuyahoga
Certificate: 036729
Age at Death: 85
Certifier: Physician
Hospital Status: Other/Nursing Home
Social Security Number: 334-05-8190
Father's Surname: Overholser
Mother's Maiden Name: Leota
Marital Status: Widowed
Education: 12
Armed Forces Indicator: Yes
Branch of Service: Army
Industry of Decedent: Blast furnaces, steelworks, rolling and finishing mills
Occupation of Decedent: Managers and administrators not elsewhere classified
Census Tract: 1059
Primary Registration District: 1802

Vera went back in 1954 with the two children

jax

Oh! Jax! That makes sense!

Maureen

PS Maybe not for the funeral but certainly because of the death?

I'm stopping now in the interests of the living people we're discussing!!!

Maureen

PS-You'll note that one Over* child was born in the UK in '53?

Maybe she came over for her fathers funeral

Name: Alfred Clegg
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1953
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 183

No maybe not they would have missed it

:-) :-)

They seemed to be back and forth:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Vera Overholser
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1950
Birth Year: abt 1922
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Georgic

Michael age 2 was with her. Same address in Sterling, Illinois as before.