Find Ancestors

Ooops!!! Yes my mum was born in Seaton Delaval. I still have relatives living around that area. Her surname was Wardle
and I have got back to around 1765 and they have all lived in the Northumberland/Newcastle area.

Ollie - by my neck of the woods I mean Seaton Delaval! I noticed it on your "Researching ... " line - I'm very close to there.

Oh good. will try searching other trees using the various spellings for the surname. Fingers crossed something will turn up.

I must admit I am woefully ignorant about your neck of the woods, but obviously will know do some searching for information about the places and also look for the addresses. Something to keep me busy.

The rest of the Ushers all lived in poverty in Liverpool, and my OH was the first to be born outside of Liverpool. when his father moved to the beautiful Cheshire Countryside Knutsford where we still live. OR SO HE THOUGHT. Would love to tell him he was wrong !!!!!!!!! :-P :-P

Definitely think that's the same family as in the 1900.

Do you think this could be the birth of James. I know on the census he said he was born august 1870, I cannot find one, but found this note different spelling of surname

James Francis Fossolmas
titles & terms:
event: Birth
event date: 07 Sep 1869
event place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
gender:
race:
registration date:
registration place:
christening date:
christening place:
christening age:
death date:
death age:
father: Frederick Fossolmas
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother: Mary
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
paternal grandfather:
paternal grandmother:
maternal grandfather:
maternal grandmother:
additional relatives:
volume/page/certificate number: 22
film number: 1428072
digital folder number: 4341188
image number: 765

Funnily enough my Mary's father was called James and her brother called Francis.

This could be them in 1880 census but again with a different spelling of surname

Mary Fosselmaun
residence: Buffalo, Erie, New York
birthdate: 1842
birthplace: England
relationship to head: Self
spouse's name:
spouse's birthplace:
father's name:
father's birthplace:
mother's name:
mother's birthplace:
race or color (expanded): White
ethnicity (standardized): American
gender: Female
martial status: Widowed
age (expanded): 38 years
occupation: Keeping House
nara film number: T9-0828
page: 32
page character: D
entry number: 572
film number: 1254828
Household Gender Age
Mary Fosselmaun F 38
child Mary Fosselmaun F 13
child James F. Fosselmaun M 10
child Margaret Fosselmaun F 9
child Junietta Fosselmaun F 8
child Sarah Ann Fosselmaun F 3

had a look for the death of Frederick for the dates 1875 1880 but couldn't find one.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Ollie, I'll keep digging away and will add if I find anything else, so keep checking back.

(Happy to help anyone interested in a location near my neck of the woods!).

I do think this looks promising and only hope I can tie it up with my Mary, Had a quick look to see if anyone else had them in their tree but no such look. Also tried on Ancestry but again nothing.

I refuse to abandon the ship, so to speak and will keep on trying and hopefully tie it up with my Mary.

Once again many thanks for all your help, I couldn't do it without you. ;-)

Think this may be the chap who married in Boston in 1865:

Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 for Friedrich Jakob Vosselmann

name: Friedrich Jakob Vosselmann
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Oct 1832
baptism/christening place: Oberhausen, Bayern, Germany
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Friedrich Jakob Vosselmann
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Maria Elisabetha Hechler
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04435-3
system origin: Germany-EASy
source film number: 193778
reference number: #13

There is this 1900 census:

1900 United States Federal Census about Mary Fosselman
Name: Mary Fosselman
Age: 59
Birth Date: Apr 1841
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Buffalo Ward 4, Erie, New York
[Erie]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1862
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother: number of living children: 4
Mother: How many children: 7
Occupation:
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Fosselman 59
James Fosselman 29 b Aug 1870, Massachusetts. Occ Painter
Maggie Fosselman 28 b Feb 1872, Buffalo. Waiter
Saidee Fosselman 23 b Jan 1877, Buffalo. Waiter

It says she's born in England in April 1841 and her father was English and mother Irish. The records for the children say their father was German (like the marriage record). If Mary had come to England at a young age might she have thought of it as her home country? Son James born Mass, where that 1865 marriage record was.

That census coincides with a city directory:

U.S. City Directories (Beta)
Name: Mary Fosselman
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1904
Street Address: 634 N Division
Residence Place: Buffalo, New York
Spouse: Frederick Fosselman
Publication Title: Buffalo, New York, City Directory, 1904

This actually says she's the widow of Frederick. She's living with James, a painter.

Must also be connected to:

U.S. City Directories (Beta)
Name: Frederick J Fosselman
Residence Year: 1876
Street Address: 50 Vary
Residence Place: Buffalo, New York
Occupation: Painter
Publication Title: Buffalo, New York, City Directory, 1876

Didn't see the page 2 and my reply was for the post at the end of page 1.

Very strange goings on. I wonder, will try and of digging and also see if anybody else has any idea.

You are doing well at getting info many thanks :-D

My Mary Usher was born in Ireland around 1842. The last I found of her was the 1861 census and she was living in Liverpool.

It is has been so difficult trying to sort the "Usher" side. I was hoping this could be another lead. have not given up that it might still be the right Mary. will have to do some more research.

many thanks for your information.

Now, is it a coincidence that this chap departed from, and arrived at, the same ports as the Mary H Usher I posted on page 1?

Atlantic Ports Passenger Lists, 1820-1873 and 1893-1959
Name: F Fosselman
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Arrival Date: 22 Nov 1864
Port of Arrival: Portland and Falmouth, Maine
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Moravian

However, this chap is a farmer from England, not a German mariner as per the marriage record.

The age is a bit out on this one ...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Mary Usher
Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1864
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Erin

There's no other info other than she normally belonged to Ireland and intended to stay in the US.

This girl's name is really Mary H Usher:

Atlantic Ports Passenger Lists, 1820-1873 and 1893-1959
Name: Mary Husher
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Gender: Female
Arrival Date: 25 Mar 1863
Port of Arrival: Portland and Falmouth, Maine
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Hibernian

She was a servant, normally residing England, and was going to Philadelphia.

Just posting this for reference as if we can find Frederick it might answer the question:

Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915 for Frederick Fosselman

name: Frederick Fosselman
titles & terms:
event: Marriage
event date: 06 Jan 1865
event place: Boston, Massachusetts
gender: Male
age: 32
marital status:
race:
birth date:
birthplace:
marriage registration year:
marriage registration place:
estimated birth year: 1833
father: Frederick Fosselman
father's titles & terms:
mother: Maria E.
mother's titles & terms:
spouse: Mary Usher
spouse's titles & terms:
spouse's race:
spouse's marital status:
spouse's father: James Usher
spouse's father's titles & terms:
spouse's mother: Bridget
spouse's mother's titles & terms:
record number: 45
film number: 1433022
digital folder number: 4279268
image number: 01058
number of images:

Looking at the original record, he was a mariner born Germany and she was born Ireland. Her age was 21. It also says it was a first marriage for both of them.

Can't find a reliable shipping record and can't find the Fosselmans on US census (that would have confirmed wife's birthplace).

Might Mary have gone back to Ireland?

nudge

Now looking for his sister Mary Usher born Down Ireland around 1942-1944. I have got her in the 51 and 61 census living in Liverpool with her parents and then not sure what happened to her.

I have now found on family search a marriage between a Mary Usher (1844) with the parents James and Bridget. Married on 6/1/1865 in Boston Massachusetts to a Frederick Fosselman.

Could anyone kindly look up to see if a Mary Usher emigrated between the years 1861-1864.

Many thanks Olwen

Forgiven Olwen .... seeing as it's Christmas :-)

just as a matter of interest - on some versions of the birth index the volume number was written in roman numerals eg vol 20 written as XX and which I think is translated by freebmd

edit

just checked the image - the image says XX but when displaying the item freebmd translates it to 20