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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 4 Feb 2012 18:17

have you got the marriage certificate of Elizabeth Annie to John fisher?

You really need that to confirm the name of her father and his occupation so that you can find her in the 1891/1901/1911 cenuses

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Feb 2012 23:03

If when you get the marriage details of John Thomas & Eliza John's father is George as shown in the death in 1917 you can find the details of his birth on lan-opc.org.uk showing his mother as Margaret Agnes who died in 1901. George remarried to Alice in 1902.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Feb 2012 13:58

St Luke Skerton

January 22nd 1916 by licence

John Thomas Fisher a33 bachelor, labourer, Cavendish Park Barrow in Furness, father = George Fisher labourer

Eliza Annie Williams a 32 spinster, 17 Pinfold Lane father = Robert Williams labourer

Note - both name and signature are Eliza not Elizabeth
both signed register

witnesses Thomas Sanderson and Mary Jane Sanderson (there are 3 further letters after her name M?S -possibly Mrs?)

showgirl

showgirl Report 16 Feb 2012 17:16

thank you ann for this information.Brilliant :-)I will hopefully get further with her life,where she was born and who my great grandmother was.It was a big surprise to learn that my gran lived at 17,Pinfold lane,as that was the address given on my grandads death notice.My gran later lived at number 15 Pinfold lane and i went to live there with her when i got married in 1956.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 16 Feb 2012 23:06

witness possibly Eliza's sister

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SANDERSON Thomas WILLIAMS Mary Jane Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/25/134

showgirl

showgirl Report 19 Feb 2012 15:55

thanks for your help up to now.What i cant understand is,why there are no records of Eliza Annie Williams,apart from the 1901 census.There are no records of her family after that either.I have got the records of her 2 brothers and 2 sisters.I cant understand why she was born in Northampton,when none of her family seem to have any connection with Northampton.Can you throw any light on this for me please?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2012 17:03

where did the 'born in Northampton' come from please?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILLIAMS Robert CRAWFORD Eliza Jane Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/7/17

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILLIAMS Sarah Ann Lancaster Preston CRAWFORD LAN/66/21

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILLIAMS Winifred Lancaster Preston CRAWFORD LAN/69/33

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WILLIAMS George Lancaster Preston CRAWFORD LAN/71/32

showgirl

showgirl Report 19 Feb 2012 18:08

Northampton appeared on the 1901 census.The family lived at 39,Greene St.Lancaster and consisted of Robert Williams born 1853,Eliza j Williams 1853,born in Chester,John Williams born 1878,Mary J Williams born1881,Eliza J Williams born 1883 in Northampton and Sarah A Williams born in 1886. They were all born in Lancaster apart from Eliza J Williams. There is no record of the family together apart from the 1901 census.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 19 Feb 2012 18:11

but wasn't she Eliza Annie not Eliza J born 1883/84

or is it a mistranscription from the image

showgirl

showgirl Report 19 Feb 2012 18:58

She was Eliza Annie or Ann,but on the 1901 census she was down as Eliza J like her mother..Have found an Eliza Annie Williams on 1911 census as an asylum nurse aged 27 working at Kirkburton Huddersfield,Thurstonland.Born in Lancaster

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Feb 2012 16:42

that does fit rather nicely but this time she is born in Lancaster!!

showgirl

showgirl Report 20 Feb 2012 18:23

Yes it does,but why can we not find her on any records apart from 1901 and 1911 on her own.Not with any family apart from 1901,then nothing about her moving to Pinfold Lane Lancaster before she was married.Again,why was she the only one not to be able to be found anywhere.