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3 Jan 2012 14:11 |
My GGrandad
Frederick William Humphreys born 1875 ?
The following info is deffo Gladys was my Gran 1911 census Stockton Avenue Faifeild wife Elizabeth Ellis born 1880 Thornaby children Margaret 1903 Gladys 1907 Constance 1909 Frederick 1915
We all thought he was born in Wales but on the 1911 census he is down as born Aldershot
census before 1911 I think he is down as being born in Kent
Any help would be fantastic Carol ;-)
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Mark
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3 Jan 2012 14:17 |
Hello
What are you hoping to findout..... Do you know his parents names - do you have his birth certficate
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:22 |
Sorry, but how can son Frederick on 1911 census be noted as being born in 1915?
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Andrew
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3 Jan 2012 14:24 |
His marriage cert should have fathers details (if known) to help trace him in earlier census records
Andy
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3 Jan 2012 14:24 |
Father's details(if he knew them) from marriage cert will help your search
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ellis Elizabeth Ann Middlesbro' 9d 950 Humphreys Frederick William Middlesbro' 9d 950 Killingbeck Gertrude Middlesbro' 9d 950 Stainthorpe John William Middlesbro' 9d 950
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:27 |
1911?
1911 England Census about Frederick W Humphreys Name: Frederick W Humphreys Age in 1911: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Aldershot, Hampshire, England Civil parish: East Hartburn and Elton County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Avenue Fairfield Stockton On Tees Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer Co Registration district: Stockton Registration District Number: 544 Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 42 Piece: 29588 Household Members: Name Age Frederick W Humphreys 36 Stockton On Tees, Durham, England Margaret E Humphreys 7 Birth Place: Stockton On Tees, Durham, Gladys Humphreys 4 Constance Humphreys 1
married 8yrs children 3 all living
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:31 |
1901? Name: Frederick Humphreys Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Bromley, Kent, England Civil parish: Stockton on Tees Ecclesiastical parish: Stockton St Peter Town: Stockton on Tees County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 180 Piece: 4623 Folio: 140 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Frederick W Gall 34 Mary H Gall 32 Annie P Gall 6 Charles W Gall 2 Frederick Humphreys 25
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Braken
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3 Jan 2012 14:32 |
Catherine yes thats the one
Frederick 1915 was his youngest son and obviously not on the census I put him on to show you all the info I have
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3 Jan 2012 14:33 |
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Name: Frederick Humphreys Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Bromley, Kent, England Civil parish: Stockton on Tees Ecclesiastical parish: Stockton St Peter Town: Stockton on Tees County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Stockton Sub-registration district: Stockton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 180 Piece: 4623 Folio: 140 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Frederick W Gall 34 Mary H Gall 32 Annie P Gall 6 Charles W Gall 2 Frederick Humphreys 25 Linked by Ancestry to.................................1891
Name: Frederick W Humphreys Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Isaac Humphreys Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Rochester County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Rochester ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 657 Folio: 54 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Humphreys 40 Sarah E Humphreys 47 Jesse W Humphreys 18 Frederick W Humphreys 15 Elizabeth A Humphreys 14 Charlotte Humphreys 44 But......you need the marriage cert for confirmation
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Flick
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3 Jan 2012 14:34 |
There is a birth reg'n in Medway district
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:35 |
There are two other Frederick W. Humphreys showing in 1891 census but this one puts him in the correct place ?:-
1891 Name: Fred Humphreys Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Grandson Father's Name: Charles Humphreys Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil parish: Linthorpe Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Farm House County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Wellington Gardens
Occupation: Gardener Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 67 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4014 Folio: 84 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age George Humphreys 72 born: Salton (occupation Florist) Jane Humphreys 72 born: Woodcaset, Bedfordshire Mary Humphreys 39 - Daughter born: Kent, England Charles Humphreys 37 - Son born: Barnet Fred Humphreys 15
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Braken
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3 Jan 2012 14:39 |
Their marriage cert has a line drawn through in the box where fathers name should be so I have nothing to go on
the one in 1902 is correct sorry trying to keep up answereing questions but internet keeps going off
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:44 |
The Frederick born Rochester is still with his family in Kent in 1901:-
Name: Frederick Humphreys Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Isaac Humphreys Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil parish: Rochester St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester St Peter County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Medway Sub-registration district: Rochester and Chatham ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 725 Folio: 43 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Humphreys 50 Elizabeth Humphreys 52 Frederick Humphreys 25 Elizabeth Humphreys 24 Ellen Humphreys 28 Ellen Elphick 60
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Braken
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3 Jan 2012 14:46 |
Gladys his daughter 1907 was my gran
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:46 |
If there's no father's name on marriage cert. then he could very well have been illegitimate.
What was his profession on the cert. and what did he give as his address?
Were there any witnesses for him?
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Braken
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3 Jan 2012 14:50 |
Catherine the census in 1901 in kent I think is the wrong one as he was in stockton then he married Elizabeth in 1902 at St Paul's thornaby Mboro
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:51 |
Braken, Wasn't sure if you had made a typing error for the date of birth of Frederick (son) or if you had, as you have said, just added him on as he was born after the census. Now I know. regards Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 14:58 |
we have just had an awafull storm so internet has being going off some of my answerers have not shown up sorry
the cert has him down as living in St Peter's Parish Stockton no proper address He has signed his name in full Frederick William Humphreys 9th july 1902 St Paul's Thornaby Mboro
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Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 15:00 |
Braken, No I don't think the 1901 Rochester one is correct either. I posted it to show that the Frederick born Rochester, Kent was still in Kent in 1901. When there are multiple possibilities, it is always good to try to trace the others to try and eliminate them from your research. Catherine
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3 Jan 2012 15:02 |
With no known father, he will be difficult to pinpoint.......
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