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Mary Mills, Montgomeryshire

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Empey

Empey Report 15 Jan 2012 18:40

Strange, the one above has appeared on the thread! How do I move a reply from my mailbox to the thread?

Empey

Empey Report 15 Jan 2012 18:38

Please can anyone tell me why, even though I use the reply box, it does not appear on the thread but in my mailbox?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Jan 2012 13:58

registered in reverse order?

Births Sep 1890
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Mills Elizabeth Clara Newtown 11b 161

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Jan 2012 13:54

Found myself wondering about Clara Morgan c1890.

In 1901 she is Clara Morgan born c1891 Llandinam Montgomeryshire.
In 1911 she is Clara Elizabeth Morgan born c1890 Caersws Montgomeryshire.

In 1891 widowed John Mills has an 8 month old granddaughter living with him called Clara E Mills who was born Kerry , where we believe Mary MIlls was working in 1891.

Just a co-incidence?

I can't find a birth ref for a Clara Mills or a Clara Morgan, just to complicate the issue!

Empey

Empey Report 15 Jan 2012 11:26

Kucinta,
Again, many thanks. I am inclined to believe that in 1891 Mary is the one at Y Fron, Kerry, Goitre, working as a domestic with the Davies (this is not far from Black Hill, where her daughters were in 1891). The info gives Davidswalls as her birthplace - a mis-transcript, probably, for St David's Well, a hamlet very close to Llanbadarn Fynnedd, in Radnorshire, which fits with the later stated birthplace of Mary Morgan. I'm not sure about Llananno, which is further away. I hope the marriage cert will put me on the right track.
Best regards, Mary

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Jan 2012 12:52

Looks like John Mills married in 1842, but which marriage is his?

Marriages Dec 1842
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>>>BREES Ann Newtown &c 27 209
DAVIES David Newtown &c 27 209
EVANS Jane Newtown &c 27 209
Lewis Richard Newtown &c 27 209
>>>Mills John Newtown &c 27 209
Morgans Mary Anne Newtown &c 27 209
OWEN William Newtown &c 27 209


or

Marriages Dec 1842
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>>>HUGHES Anne Knighton 26 345
>>>Mills John Knighton 26 345
Worthing Richard Knighton 26 345

Knighton covers Llananno and Llanbadarn Fynydd.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Jan 2012 00:51

Sarah Ann Mills in 1901?

JONES, John Head Married M 57 1844 Farmer Beguildy Radnorshire
JONES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 56 1845 Abbey Cwmhir Radnorshire
JONES, Sarah M Daughter Single F 23 1878 Farmers Daughter Kerry
Montgomeryshire
JONES, John L Son Single M 20 1881 Farmers Son Kerry
Montgomeryshire
JONES, Samuel W Son Single M 18 1883 Farmers Son
Kerry Montgomeryshire
JONES, George T Son M 10 1891 Mainstone Salop
OWENS, Sarah Servant Widow F 58 1843 Assistant Housekeeper
Abbey Cwmhir Radnorshire
>>>MILLS, Sarah A Servant Single F 16 1885 General Servant (Domestic)
Newtown Montgomeryshire
HANCHAM, Charles Servant Single M 26 1875 Farm Bailiff
Churchstoke Montgomeryshire
BEVAN, Charles J Servant Single M 23 1878 Cowman On Farm
London
HARRIS, Richard Servant Single M 20 1881 Waggoner On Farm
Kerry Montgomeryshire
TROW, Alfred Servant M 14 1887 Waggoner On Farm Churchstoke
Montgomeryshire

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Piece:
5195 Folio:
14 Page:
4 Registration District:
Newtown

Civil Parish:
Kerry Municipal Borough:

Address:
Cwm Bromley, Kerry, Sarn County:
Montgomeryshire


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Jan 2012 00:32

Mochdre (see census 1891) comes under Newtown Reg District:

Deaths Jun 1891
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MILLS John 76 Newtown 11b 174

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Jan 2012 00:26

Census 1891:

MILLS, John Head Widower M 76 1815 Retired Farmer Nantmel Radnorshire
MILLS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 31 1860 General Domestid Farm Servant Llananno Radnorshire
MILLS, John Grandson M 11 1880 Scholar Llananno Radnorshire
MILLS, William Grandson M 7 1884 Scholar Llananno Radnorshire
MILLS, Clara E Granddaughter F 0 (8M) 1891 Kerry Montgomeryshire

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Piece:
4592 Folio:
74 Page:
6 Registration District:
Newtown

Civil Parish:
Mochdre Municipal Borough:

Address:
Congley, Mochdre, Stepaside County:
Montgomeryshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 13 Jan 2012 00:23

census 1881:

MILLS, John Head Married M 66 1815 Farmer Of 25 Acres Nantmel
Radnorshire Wales
MILLS, Ann Wife Married F 57 1824 Farmers Wife St Harmon
Radnorshire Wales
MILLS, Edward Son Single M 19 1862 Farmers Son Llananno
Radnorshire Wales
MILLS, Aaron Grand Son Single M 11 1870 Llananno Radnorshire
Wales
MILLS, John A Grand Son Single M 1 1880 Knighton Radnorshire
Wales

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Piece:
5474 Folio:
64 Page:
3 Registration District:
Knighton

Civil Parish:
Llananno Municipal Borough:

Address:
Plentifulgates, Llananno County:
Radnorshire


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 23:35

Same family in 1851 Is daughter Eleanor named after her paternal grandmother (see census 1841), and son Francis after his paternal grandfather?:

MILLS, John Head Married M 35 1816 Farmer Nantmel Radnorshire
MILLS, Anne Wife Married F 27 1824 Farmer's Wife Llandilovane
Montgomeryshire
MILLS, Fransis Son M 7 1844 Farmer's Son Llananno Radnorshire
MILLS, John Son M 5 1846 Farmer's Son Nantmel Radnorshire
MILLS, Hugh Son M 3 1848 Farmer's Son Nantmel Radnorshire
MILLS, Eleanor Daughter F 2 1849 Farmer's Daughter Nantmel
Radnorshire

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Piece:
2493 Folio:
361 Page:
13 Registration District:
Knighton

Civil Parish:
Cwmlechwedd Municipal Borough:

Address:
City House, Cwmlechwedd County:
Radnorshire


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 23:14

Census 1861:

MILLS, John Head Married M 45 1816 Farmer Of 15 Acres Nantmel
Radnorshire
MILLS, Ann Wife Married F 37 1824 St Harmon Radnorshire
MILLS, David Son M 9 1852 Farmers Son Llanbister Radnorshire
MILLS, Joseph Son M 8 1853 Farmers Son Llanbister Radnorshire
MILLS, Ann Daughter F 6 1855 Farmers Daughter Llanbister
Radnorshire
MILLS, Sarah Daughter F 4 1857 Farmers Daughter Llananno
Radnorshire
MILLS, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1860 Farmers Daughter Llananno
Radnorshire

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Piece:
4235 Folio:
62 Page:
3 Registration District:
Knighton

Civil Parish:
Llananno Municipal Borough:

Address:
Plentyfell Gates, Upper Fordlace, Llananno County:
Radnorshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 23:07

Census 1841?

MILLS, Francis M 65 1776 Radnorshire Farmer
MILLS, Eleanor F 65 1776 Radnorshire
>>>>MILLS, John M 25 1816 Radnorshire No occupation recorded
MILLS, Evan M 30 1811 Radnorshire carpenter
MEREDITH, William M 4 1837 Radnorshire

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Piece:
1458 Book/Folio:
8/6 Page:
8 Registration District:
Rhayader

Civil Parish:
Nantmel Municipal Borough:

Address:
Upper House, Nantmel, Coedglasson County:
Radnorshire


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 22:37

?????

I now believe this is the correct family for Mary Mills in 1871. Note she has a sister called Martha.

Llananno (see also census 1881) is near Llanbadarn Fynydd (see census 1911).

Name: Mary Mills
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Mills
Mother's Name: Ann Mills
Gender: Female
Where born: Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llananno
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Knighton
Sub-registration district: Llanbister
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 5597
Folio: 69
Page Number: 5

Household Members: Name Age
John Mills 56 c1815 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales farmer of 22 acres
Ann Mills 47 c1824 St Harmon, Radnorshire, Wales
Elizabeth Mills 11 c1860 Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales
Edward Mills 9 c1862 Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales
>>>>Mary Mills 6 c1865 Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales
Martha Mills 4 c1867 Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales
Aaron Mills 1 grandson c1870 Llananno, Radnorshire, Wales

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 22:17

Mary in 1881? Some of the family she worked for were born in Llanbadarn.


JONES, John Head Married M 37 1844 Farmer 470 Acres Employing 3 Men 1 Boy Llanano Radnorshire Wales
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 26 1855 Llanbadarn Radnorshire Wales
JONES, Evan Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Llanllwchaiarn Montgomeryshire Wales
JONES, Abraham Son Single M 4 1877 Kerry Montgomeryshire Wales
JONES, Mary J Daughter Single F 3 1878 Kerry Montgomeryshire Wales
JONES, John P Son Single M 0 1881 Kerry Montgomeryshire Wales
JONES, Sarah Mother Widow F 59 1822 Annuitant Llanbadarn Radnorshire Wales
JONES, Mary Niece Single F 8 1873 Scholar Llanbadarn Radnorshire
Wales
JONES, Thomas Servant Single M 17 1864 Ag Laborer Houghtre
Montgomeryshire Wales
JONES, Abraham Servant Single M 14 1867 Ag Laborer Houghtre
Montgomeryshire Wales
WILLIAMS, Joseph Servant Single M 24 1857 Ag Laborer Shropshire
>>>>MILLS, Mary Servant Single F 17 1864 Domestic Servant Llananno
Radnorshire Wales

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Piece:
5485 Folio:
62 Page:
4 Registration District:
Newtown

Civil Parish:
Kerry Municipal Borough:


Address:
Weeg, Kerry County:
Montgomeryshire


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 22:13

Possibly Mary in 1891?


DAVIES, Thomas Head Widower M 65 1826 Farmer Blind Trowbridge
Wiltshire
DAVIES, John Son Single M 23 1868 Farmer Son Kerry Montgomeryshire
>>>MILLS, Mary Servant Single F 25 1866 Housekeeper Domestic Servant Radnorshire Davidswalls
CORBITT, Charles Servant Single M 16 1875 Farm Servant Llandysilio
Montgomeryshire

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Piece:
4592 Folio:
20 Page:
2 Registration District:
Newtown

Civil Parish:
Kerry Municipal Borough:

Address:
Fron, Kerry, Goitre County:
Montgomeryshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 14:49

Same family from 1901 census I posted, in 1911, ties in with the 1900 marriage I posted:

Married 11 years . 5 children, 2 living, 3 deceased.

MORGAN, David Head M 58 1853 Farmer Montgomery Tregynon
>>>MORGAN, Mary Wife Married 11 years F 46 1865 Radnorshire Llanbadarn Fynyeth
MORGAN, Clara Elizabeth Daughter Single F 21 1890 Farmers Daughter Dairy Work Montgomery Caersws
MORGAN, John Robert Son M 4 1907 Montgomeryllandysill
MORGAN, Peter S Grandson M 1 1910 Montgomeryllandysill

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33777 Reference:
RG14PN33777 RG78PN1949 RD616 SD3 ED3 SN5

Registration District:
Newtown Sub District:
Kerry Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Kerry

Address:
Sycamore Cottage Llandyssil Montgomery County:
Montgomeryshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 14:28

???????

EDIT: I now think this is wrong, and the Llanbadarn Mary was born in, in census 1901, was actually Llanbadarn Fynydd (which is not far from Newtown) as per census 1911, but have left this for elimination purposes.


Census 1871

Name: Mary Anne Mills
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Mills
Mother's Name: Ada Eliza Mills
Gender: Female
>>>>>Where born: Llanbadarn Vawr, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanbadarn Vawr
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Rhayader
Sub-registration district: Nantmel
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 5600
Folio: 92
Page Number: 14

Household Members: Name Age
John Mills 43 c1828 Llanbadarn Vawr, Radnorshire, Wales. farmer of 50 acres.
Ada Eliza Mills 44 c1827 Llanbister, Radnorshire, Wales
Jane Mills 12 c1859 Llanbadarn Vawr, Radnorshire, Wales
John Mills 9 c1862 Llanbadarn Vawr, Radnorshire, Wales
Mary Anne Mills 5 c1866 Llanbadarn Vawr, Radnorshire, Wales

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 14:20


????????


Marriages Jun 1900
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Evans Jane Ellen Newtown 11b 304
>>>Mills Mary Newtown 11b 304
>>>Morgan David Newtown 11b 304
Phillips William Newtown 11b 304

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Jan 2012 14:16

Census 1901:


Name: Marth Mills
[Marth Morgan]
Age in 1901: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Morgan
Mother's Name: Mary Morgan
Gender: Female
Where born: Dolfor, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llandyssil
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil St Tyssil
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 5199
Folio: 65
Page Number: 6

Household Members: Name Age
David Morgan 40 c1861 Llanfair, Montgomeryshire, Wales .Waggoner on farm.
>>Mary Morgan 36 c1865 Llanbadarn, Radnorshire, Wales
Clara Morgan 10 c1891 Llandinam, Montgomeryshire, Wales
>>Marth Mills 15 c1886 Dolfor, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Definitely written as Marth Mills on the original, also as daur, and single.