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Robert

Robert Report 13 Jan 2012 19:25

Trying to fing my ggrandmothers family. All I can find for her is:
1911 census
John Davison. Head. 48. Sunderland, Durham
Mary June or Jane Davison. Wife. 50. Marr. 12 yrs. Leicestershire (Town NK) ?
Joseph Steel Davison. Stepson. 20. Sunderland, Durham
1901 census
John Davison. Head. 36. Sunderland, Durham
Mary J. Wife. 40. Sunderland, Durham. (not Leicestershire as above)
Joseph Steel. 10 Sunderland, Durham.
Found marriage
Sep. 1900 Sunderland John Davison - Mary Jane Steel 10a945
Dont know if she married before. Unable to find her or family before 1901 census.
Any help most welcome
Kind regards
Rob

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 13 Jan 2012 19:34

1881???

Name: Mary Jane Steel
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Grange House
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4993
Folio: 138
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Lone 62
Clara E. Lone 30
Mary Lone 28
Emma Lone 26
Eliza Lone 24
Ada Lone 22
Laura Lone 18
Ellen Rea 31
Mary Jane Steel 21


EDIT

Births Mar 1860 (>99%)
STEEL Mary Jane Sunderland 10a 425


Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
STEEL Mary Jane Sunderland 10a 451

Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
STEEL Joseph Sunderland 10a 629

tempest

tempest Report 13 Jan 2012 19:37

1891 census ?????????????

Address: 28, Hardwicke Street, Monk Wearmouth Shore, Sunderland

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

STEELE, Mary J Wife Married F 33 1858 Leicester
STEELE, William H Son Single M 14 1877 Brick Yard Hand Sunderland Co Durham
STEELE, Isaiah Son M 9 1882 Scholar Sunderland Co Durham
STEELE, Eliza Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Sunderland Co Durham
STEELE, Rosannah Daughter F 4 1887 Sunderland Co Durham

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 13 Jan 2012 19:42

1861 ???


Name: Mary Jane Steel
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Steel
Mother's Name: Mary Steel
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 286
Piece: 3771
Folio: 68
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
William Steel 30
Mary Steel 27
Isabella Steel 3
Mary Jane Steel 1
Margaret Priestman 60>>>>>>>>>Mother in law

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Jan 2012 19:44

I wonder if this 1881 is any connection to the 1891 that tempest posted?

STEALE, George Head Married M 31 1850 Chain Maker (Mf) Stafford
STEALE, Margaret Wife Married F 22 1859 Leicester Leicestershire
STEALE, William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Sunderland Durham
STEALE, George Son Single M 4 1877 Stafford
STEALE, John Son Single M 2 1879 Sunderland Durham
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Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Monk Wearmouth Shore

Address: 42, Huddleston St, Monk Wearmouth Shore County: Durham

Look at Margaret's birthplace .....

safc

safc Report 13 Jan 2012 19:45

????

Name: Mary Jane Steel
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Mar 1860
Baptism/Christening Place: Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Steel
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01339-5
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1482466
Reference Number:

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Jan 2012 19:48

Robert - I really think you need to get a copy of that 1900 marriage certificate to check if it has Mary J's father's details on.

Robert

Robert Report 13 Jan 2012 19:50

Hi All,
Thanks very much for reply.
Kind regards
Rob.

Robert

Robert Report 13 Jan 2012 20:26

Hi All,
How do I print your replys ?
Kind regards
Rob.

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Jan 2012 20:27

You could copy and paste them into a word document and then print it out??

Robert

Robert Report 13 Jan 2012 20:57

Thanks Lynski,
KR Rob.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2012 04:51

Rob


This looks like Joseph Steel's birth registration


Births Sep 1891 (>99%)

STEEL Joseph Sunderland 10a 629


You could buy that, and that would tell you if he had a father, or if he was illegitimate.

If there was a father named, then it would tell you Mary J's maiden name.


Much better than guessing!



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2012 04:59

This is from the new familysearch site, extracted from the actual Parish Register


could it possibly be Joseph's baptism????


England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Joseph Steel

Name: Joseph Steel
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Sep 1891
Baptism/Christening Place: Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1891
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Steel
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Jane Steel
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01954-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1514546
Reference Number: item 3 p 64



I should buy Joseph's birth certificate to find out for certain!!




sylvia

Robert

Robert Report 22 Jan 2012 17:52

Hi All, many thanks for help. Unable to respond before as I often work away from home.
Thanks Sylvia this is the correct Joseph & Mary Jane Steel the Fathers name is very helpful I had been unable to find him.
I now have the marriage certificate for Mary Jane Steel to John Davison (second husband ?) 17 Sept. 1900 ? Bishopwearmouth, Durham
This shows her as age 39. Widow. Father William Henry Smith (deceased)
Profession Shoemaker.
I believed that with all the above everything would drop into place. Not to be.
Unable to find marriage Smith to Steel. Unable to find death of George Steel.
Unable to find William Smith family details on census.
What am I NOT doing correct again.
Will e mail kiss and hug for help.
Kind regards
Rob.

tempest

tempest Report 22 Jan 2012 18:34

a possibility for her first marriage

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage


Name: SMITH, Mary Jane
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
County: Northumberland
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 10B
Page No: 14

MarriageFinderâ„¢: Mary Jane Smith married one of the following people

SPINK, William James
STEELE, George
DOBBS, Anna

Mary

Mary Report 22 Jan 2012 18:37

1861 Sedgley staffs D 27 > 24 High street.
William Henry Smith 1828 Dudley Worc Cordwainer/Shoemaker
Rhoda 1827 Staffs
Mary Jane 1859
Marriott william 1857 in 1901 he is in barrow in furness.

Maryb.

Robert

Robert Report 22 Jan 2012 19:23

Thanks Tempest, thanks Mary
Rob X

Robert

Robert Report 22 Jan 2012 20:40

Lookup please
1881 & 1891 census
George & wife Mary Jane Steele (Steel) Mary birth about 1861.
Thanks
Rob.

Robert

Robert Report 23 Jan 2012 10:40

Sorry for my last post. Should have explained.
Unable to find George & Mary Jane on 1881 census please help with lookup on 1891.
Kind regards
Rob.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Jan 2012 19:33

Rob - look at the 1881 I posted above on 13/01/12 - could Mary Jane have been mis-recorded as Margaret?