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Thank- you Mary that has given me much food for thought. :-)

Thank you so much everyone for your in put.

The information I have is from my Great Grandfathers Birth Certificate 1887. He too was a Joseph Lund.
His Father Joseph Lund is listed as a general laborer His Mother is named as Mary Ann Lund Formerly Moss. and they are living in Stockton-on-Tees.

The entire family appears is as Lesley posted on the 1891 Census still living in Stockton on Tees.

Joseph Snr C1853 also appears on his Sons marriage certificate in 1910 Stockton on Tees and his profession then is a Striker.

I may have to presume that Joseph (born C1853) is the missing male on the certificate mentioned by safc thank you

Everyone here has given me much food for thought and so I will contiune on.

Thank you once again!

Well done Mary

That certainly makes sense

:-) :-) :-)

Cheers Gins.

Maryb

I think is sounds very plausible

Well done Mary :-D

OK I think this is him.

Joseph Lund born Oct 1848 V22 P457 in Darrington Yorkshire(Reg in Pontefract) son of William Lund 1824 born Darrington and Ann 1829.
They had son Belford Lund 1856.

Joseph Lund married Jane ward O/N/D 1873 in Stockton V10a 213.
Jane Ward is Sarah Jane Ward 1853 in Hull to John Joseph Ward born 1836 in leeds and Mary A Ward nee Ragg born Norton Durham 1841 -died 1901.

1881 14 Waverley Street Stockton D45 > 14 (Post code TS18 3JH)
Jas Lund born Hartlepool 1852 (Original says Jos Lund Pontefract)
Sarah Jane Lund 1854 Hull
Bey Lund relative 1856 (Belford Lund) Male.

1881 85 Webster Street D39 > 31 (Post code found on google TS18 3EA)
Mary Moss
So very near Joseph and Sarah Jane Lund.

Sarah Jane Ward then marries Michael Murphy Dec 1883 10a 149.
1891 Stockton D41 > 12
1,Pine street.
Michael Murphy born ireland 1843
Sarah Jane Murphy born Hull
Sarah Ann Murphy 1874

1901 the above family in Byker Northumberland
Sarah Ann Lund 1874 now down as stepdaughter.

This would account for there being no marriage for Mary Moss and Joseph and it looks as though Sarah Jane Ward committed adultery.

There is no death for a Joseph Lund between 1881 -1883 so I'm sure it is the same Joseph who is on 1891 census as born in Darlington which should read Darrington.

Another coincidence is there is a tree with the same Sarah Jane Ward married to Joseph Lund son of William.

What do you think guys!!

Maryb

Cheers Patchem, William Lund and David Lund are inmates in a Cottage Home in 1901 in Durham.

Maryb.

Mary's posted marriage in 1887:
Marriages Jun 1887
DALE Frederick Durham 10a 453
MOSS Mary Durham 10a 453
Strathman Herman Durham 10a 453
Thornes Jemima Durham 10a 453

????

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Details of your chosen Marriage certificate (including spouse) are as follows:

Surname Forename(s) Year District
92% WHITE Thomas 1885 Durham Northern xxxx
92% MOSS Mary A 1885 Durham Northern
92% SHELDON Mary A 1885 Durham Northern xxxx

male missing unless mary a moss and mary a sheldon are the same person

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Where were Joseph and Mary in 1901?

There is a Mary Moss marrying A/M/J 1887 in Durham.

There is only 2 other names Herman Strathman and Jemima.
They are on 1891 census,so who is the missing man??

Maryb

But unfortunately no closer to any marriage or true identity of Joseph Lund.

I am hoping she is Mary 1864 daughter

Joseph 1825 grand daughter

:-S

Lesley,
Moss family in 1881, yes.
Do you think Mary Ann is daughter or grand-daughter in 1881?

This could be a marriage for Lavinia using the Moss surname:
Marriages Mar 1904
Moss Lavinia Stockton 10a 109

I think they were not telling the total truth in 1891.
Would be interested in Lavinia's birth and marriage certificates.
Have you found Joseph Lund in any other censuses or his death?

I might have gone right off track

1881

MOSS, Joseph Head Married M 56 1825 Cotton Weaver (Manu)
Barnsley
Yorkshire VIEW
MOSS, Ann Wife Married F 45 1836
Barnsley
Yorkshire VIEW
MOSS, Joseph Son Single M 24 1857 General Labourer
Barnsley
Yorkshire VIEW
MOSS, John Son Single M 21 1860 General Labourer
Barnsley
Yorkshire VIEW
MOSS, Mary Daughter Single F 17 1864
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, Henry Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, David Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, Charles Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, Thomas Son Single M 2 1879
Stockton
Durham VIEW
MOSS, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 0 1881
Stockton
Durham VIEW
Piece:
4898 Folio:
163 Page:
31 Registration District:
Stockton

Civil Parish:
Stockton upon Tees Municipal Borough:
Address:
85, Webster St, Stockton Upon Tees County:
Durham

And this looks like Elizabeth:
Births Sep 1885
Moss Elizabeth Stockton 10a 46
so Joseph is the first one born Lund?

Patchem following your lead

Name: MOSS, Lavinia
Registration District: Help Stockton
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 10A
Page No: Help 57
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Unless this is the oldest daughter:
Births Mar 1881
MOSS Mary Ann Stockton 10a 63

Added:
And this could be Lavinia:
Births Jun 1882
Moss Lavinia Stockton 10a 57

This is the only poss marriage I can find

I can't see any for Joseph Lund and Mary Moss

Name: LUTY, Mary Ann
Registration District: Help Knaresborough
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 9A
Page No: Help 192

LUND, Joseph

Presumably this is the oldest daughter's birth, so they 'should' be married/together in 1881:
Births Jun 1881
LUND Mary Annie Stockton 10a 117