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Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 16 Jan 2012 23:30

Ann Clears GOWING married Albert PRATT 1880 (b c 1857)in Fulham (As Annie Clares Gowing). She died Dec Q 1887 (b c 1856)in Wandsworth.
Albert remarried 1889 to Annie Eliza BEGLEY.(b c 1865)
I can't find Albert in census(es) to confirm where he came from, nor can I find either wife after they married.
Albert is apoliceman and at the time of both marriages was living in Bridge Street Battersea.
Any help locating them would be appreciated - I am trying to see if there were any children.

Peter
Auckland NZ

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 16 Jan 2012 23:36

Do you have his father's name?
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Jan 2012 23:36

Name: May Constance Pratt
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881
Baptism Date: 22 May 1881
Father's Name: Albert Pratt
Mother's Name: Annie Clears Pratt
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill All Saints
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Flick

Flick Report 16 Jan 2012 23:37

Name: Albert Pratt
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Spouse Name: Annie Eliza Begley
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Dec 1889
Parish: Battersea St Mary
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: John Pratt (deceased) BOOT MAKER
Spouse Father Name: William Begley
Register Type: Parish Register

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Jan 2012 23:50

1881 - I think this matches the address on the baptism of May Constance

Name: Albert Goold
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie C. Goold
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaford, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 40 Balfern St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 9b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 640
Folio: 21
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Goold 23
Annie C. Goold 22 - born Chelsea

Class: RG11; Piece: 640; Folio: 21; Page: 38; GSU roll: 1341148.

Mike *

Mike * Report 16 Jan 2012 23:50

Could this be first wife ?
Did they have a son Alfred G ?

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Household: 1881

Ann PRATT Wife (Head) M Female 25 Hayes, Middlesex, England Household Duty
Alfred G. PRATT Son Male 1 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England


:
Dwelling 41 Waterloo Rd
Census Place Hillingdon, Middlesex, England

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 16 Jan 2012 23:56

?????
Why would he change his name from Pratt to Goold????(you don't have to answer that!

Adds a new dimension to searching though!

Peter

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:05

This is wife no 2

1881
Name: William Begley
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Begley
Gender: Male
Where born: Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Lutterworth
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Beast Market
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Chimney Cleaner

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3117
Folio: 107
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Begley 55
Eliza Begley 48
William Begley 20
Arthur Begley 17
>> Annie E. Begley 15 born Lutterworth
Frank Begley 13
Edwin Begley 10
Edward Begley 10

Says Parish of Lutterworth on marriage details and father William is shown as sweep

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2012 00:07

Incidentally, there is a birth date noted on that baptism for May Constance .............. 15 April 1881




sylvia

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:13

Shame the birth was not before the 1881 census was taken

Not found anything else for May Constance Pratt such as marriage or death at the moment before 1911

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:16

Well well

1901
Name: Albert Goold
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie E Goold
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaford, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Lutterworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lutterworth St Mary
Town: Lutterworth
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 2950
Folio: 136
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Goold 43
Annie E Goold 35 - born Lutterworth
George V Glovier 23
Wallis Page 18
Frederick G Tyler 15

Class: RG13; Piece: 2950; Folio: 136; Page: 10


BUT differentt occupation - looks like beer bottler

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:24

1911
GOOLD, Albert Head Married M 53 1858 Police Pensioner Seaford Sussex VIEW
GOOLD, Annie Eliza Wife Married
21 years F 45 1866 Lutterworth Leicestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27845 Reference:
RG14PN27845 RG78PN1593 RD509 SD7 ED15 SN173

Registration District:
Ecclesall Bierlow Sub District:
Broomhall Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Ecclesall

Address:
16 Hickmott Road Sheffield



Not sure what to make of all this so far

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2012 00:25

Marrige of Albert and first wife?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Annie Clares Gowing

Name: Annie Clares Gowing
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Apr 1880
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Hammersmith
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: William Thomas Gowing
Spouse Father Name: John Pratt
Register Type: Parish Registers

Groom:- Albert Pratt, Police Constable

Address:- 110 Bridge Road, Battersea
Father:- Boot Maker



Annie
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- Southerton (or ?Smitherton) Road
Father:- Baker


Witnesses:- Edwin Broadbridge and Mary Ann Gowing



sylvia

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:28

Not found them in 1891

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2012 00:32

I found this for May Constance Pratt

??? possible???


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about May Constance Pratt

Name: May Constance Pratt
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1928
Burial Date: 18 Oct 1928
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Parish or Poor Law Union: South Mimms St Giles
Borough: South Mimms
Register Type: Parish Register

Address:- 17 Wellhouse Lane, Barnet



and then this ....... ???same person????


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about May Constance Pratt

Name: May Constance Pratt
Probate Date: 25 Nov 1929
Death Date: 15 Oct 1929
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London


from image:-

of The Cottage, South Mimms, Middlesex, spinster, died 15 October 1929, at Wellhouse Hospital, Barnet, Middlesex. Probate [granted] London to Elizabeth Margaret Greenslade (wife of Charles Greenslade).
Effects £77 5s 7d





any possibility this is the May Constance Pratt, baptized 1881, daughter of Albert ????????????

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:35

Well if it is her then where is she in 1891, 1901 and 1911

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2012 00:37

just looked up the Greenslades marriage


Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%)

GERKEN Elizabeth M Greenslade Barnet 3a 909
GREENSLADE Charles Gerken Barnet 3a 909


Births Dec 1892 (>99%)

Gerken Elizabeth Margaret Barnet 3a 222


so not a sister of May Constance ......... as I was hoping!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Jan 2012 00:38

I'll be back in about 15 minutes to continue the hunt!! :-D

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:40

1911 just having a look around
SMITH, George Head Married M 23 1888 Police Constable Essex Leyton VIEW
SMITH, Lilian Wife Married
2 years F 31 1880 Clapton Park London VIEW
PRATT, May Sister-In-Law Single F 28 1883 Clerk Clapton Park London VIEW
DAVIDSON, Rashell Visitor M 12 1899 Schoolboy Surrey Wimbledon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2256 Reference:
RG14PN2256 RG78PN77 RD26 SD4 ED6 SN488

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Clapham Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Wandsworth Borough

Address:
10 Iveley Road Clapham SW

But this would sugest she had a sister :-S

Going to rule this one out

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Jan 2012 00:50

Might explain his name change

Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
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Austen John Lambeth 1d 306
Goold Walter Lambeth 1d 306
Neaves Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 306
Pratt Lucy Lambeth 1d 306



1871

Name: Albert Gould
[Albert Goold]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter Gould
Mother's Name: Lucy Gould
Gender: Male
Where born: Seaford, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Upper Tooting
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 718
Folio: 15
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Gould 40
Lucy Gould 34
Albert Gould 14
Frederick W Gould 11
Ellen Gould 8
Elizabeth Gould 8
Herbert T Gould 7
Henry W Gould 2
Agnes Gould 1
Infant Gould 1 Week
Ellen Finch 24
Henry Finch 1

Class: RG10; Piece: 718; Folio: 15; Page: 24; GSU roll: 823347