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This is the Henry born in Dalton:

1881 England Census
about Henry Bimson Name: Henry Bimson
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice S. Bimson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Atherton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Coal Pit Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Collier Labourer

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3809
Folio: 32
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bimson 35 Colliery Labr.
Alice S. Bimson 41
Sarah A. Pendleton 14
William H. Bimson 12
Thomas P. Bimson 9
John Bimson 7
Richard Bimson 5
George Bimson 2
James Bimson

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3809; Folio: 32; Page: 58; GSU roll: 1341911.


His marriage:
Marriages Sep 1868

BAKER Lucy Wigan.8c 104 3 1868
BIMSON Henry Wigan.8c 104 3 1868 ****
BOLTON Joseph Wigan.8c 104 3 1868
PENDLETON Alice Smith Wigan.8c 104 3 1868 ****

Dea x

I will leave this now until Alan comes back with some more info.

We cannot connect the correct one until we know who we are trying to connect him to!

Dea Xxx

hi Dea, this all i know;
the henry on my tree was born abt 1846 in Standish but no record of birth,
my tree lists his father as Nicholas Bimson b1823 Croston, his grandfather was Luke bimson b 1787 Mawdesley.
The correct Henry married Alice Pendleton on 3/8/1868 at Wigan Register Office on 3/8/1868 no father listed on certificate so there is nothing to say which family he comes from, later census records say he was born in Dalton which would tie in with another Henry b1845 whose father was also called Henry and a completely different family. I have no idea which is the correct Henry
Alan.

I take it you have the marriage cert to Alice.

Who are the witnesses on there please? and addresses etc.

Dea x

Hi Dea, yes i have the certificate, the witnesses are Henry Eccleston and Sarah Ann Eccleston whom i presume to be bother in law and sister of the bride. The brides father was William Pendleton, residence for bride and groom are given as Poolstock Wigan. Groom is aged 22 and bride as 28' all signed with a cross.
Alan

Have to go out for a while - will check back later.

Dea x

This one is listed on IGI but is a submitted record, so no evidence documented:

Henry BIMSON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 1846 Standish,M, , , England

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Parents:
Father: Nicholas BIMSON Family
Mother: Charlotte
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

and with wife & family in 1881:
Henry BIMSON Head M Male 35 Dalton, Lancashire, England Collier Labourer
Alice S. BIMSON Wife M Female 41 Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah A. PENDLETON Daur Female 14 Wigan, Lancashire, England Cotton Operative
William H. BIMSON Son Male 12 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
Thomas P. BIMSON Son Male 9 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
John BIMSON Son Male 7 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
Richard BIMSON Son Male 5 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
George BIMSON Son Male 2 Atherton, Lancashire, England
James BIMSON Son Male 2 m Atherton, Lancashire, England

1851 census clearly shows 2 Henry's - 1 born in Standish and 1 in Dalton.

They seem to have been confused into one on your tree?

Henry Bimson abt 1846 Dalton, Lancashire, England Grandson Dalton, Lancashire

Henry Bimson (parents Nickolas,& Charlot)
abt 1846 Standish, Lancashire, England Son Leyland, Lancashire

I am still looking for info to confirm which is 'your's' !

Dea x

this is presumably the marriage of your Nicholas & Charlotte - not married until 1848

Marriage: 26 Jan 1848 St Peter, Mawdesley with Bispham, Lancashire, England
Nicholas Bimpson - (X), 25 Weaver Bachelor of Mawdesley
Charlotte Woods - 25 Weaver Spinster of Charnock Richard
Groom's Father: Luke Bimpson, Weaver
Bride's Father: Henry Woods, Weaver
Witness: Laurence Sumner; Alexdr Moorcroft
Married by after certificate from the Superintendant Registrar by: Martin Twiss Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1843 - 1900, Page 15, Entry 30
Source: LDS Film 1526409

If no father named on Henry's marriage certificate it would often indicate that he was born out of wedlock

this is pure guesswork but if Nicolas & Charlotte did not marry until 1848 could this be Henry

Baptisms: 22 Feb 1846 Parish Church, Euxton, Lancashire, England
Henry Woods - Child of Charlotte Woods
Abode: Charnock Rd.
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: J. Williams
Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 11, Entry 82
Source: LDS Film 1526079

have you found Nicholas & Charlotte on the 1851 census?

(Euxton approx 7mls from Dalton)

Hi Ann, thanks for the info abt Henry Woods/Bimson that seems to answer why we can't find a birth certificate for him.
We have the 1851 census that shows Henry 5yrs old born Standish living with NICHOLAS, CHARLOTTE, LUKE 5 MTHS and LUKE grandfather.
thanks Alan :-)

I still have a 'leaning' towards the other one being yours!!

i.e. - the 'grandson' on the 1851!

Can't explain why but I am working on it !!

Dea Xxx

Hi Dea, thanks for all your continuing help, i don't have a copy of the 1851 census for the other henry, who is the 'grandson'
Alan

Jonesey posted it on page 1 :

1851???:
Name: Henry Bimson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Dalton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Upholland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 2201
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Bimson 47
Elizabeth Bimson 48
Sarah Bimson 16
Easter Bimson 11
Ann Bimson 8
Jane Bimson 5
Henry Bimson 5

Dea x

Hi Dea, sorry to be a nuisance but is there any indication as to who the parents are if he is listed as grandson.
ALAN

I have been looking at it and I have not pinned them down as yet, though, they did have a daughter Ellen on 1841 and we know that an 'Ellen' unmarried had a son Henry in the area but that was c 1842 so it is still very confused.

I will work on it again tomorrow.

Dea Xxx

The Ellen who had a son Henry in 1842 - did we think she was the Ellen Banks in 1991. That one shows the Henry Bimpson (son) as widowed and living with her in 1881 so not the Henry married to Alice (see p1)

I agree - he (Ellen's son) is not the Henry we are looking for, although he also married an 'Alice' but a different one .

I am still looking.

Dea x

'A' Henry at 22 BYROM Street.

1861 England Census
about Henry Bimpson Name: Henry Bimpson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bimpson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Piece: 2776
Folio: 45
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Bimpson 59 wid. (Husband was also Henry !)
Elizabeth Bimpson 35
Sarah Bimpson 26
Alice Lambert 23
Jane Bimpson 15
Henry Bimpson 15
Mary Bimpson 10



Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2776; Folio: 45; Page: 31; GSU roll: 543027.

Source Information


This is 'your' Henry in 1871 - mistranscribed - at 33 BYROM Street?

It is looking good for him being the son of Henry + Elizabeth??

1871 England Census
about Henry Benjam Name: Henry Benjam
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Benjam
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 3888
Folio: 28
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Benjam 25
Alice Benjam 30
Sarah Ann Pendleton 11
William H Benjamin 2

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3888; Folio: 28; Page: 18; GSU roll: 842038.

Have to make a start on lunch but will be back later!

Dea x

P.S. - He is the same one who was down as 'grandson' on 1851 - he was entered once with his family and again with his grandparents - confirmed by the fact that his sister Mary was also with him in both households.

Dea x

what puzzles me is that on both 1851 & 1861 Jane & Henry are the same age and there are birth registered in Upholland for Esther (Easter!) Ann, Jane & Mary. Why not Henry?

eg

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BIMSON Mary Upholland Wigan & Leigh UPHL/6/358