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Sorry, I'm misleading you. The brothers were at West Side of Fore Street College House, Edmonton, Enfield in 1851 (not 1941!). I must be getting old!

Kind regards
Victor

Thank you all for your contributions. I suspect that George Hamilton and two of his brothers (Charles and William) were pupils at West Side of Fore Street, College House, Edmonton, Enfield, in 1941. (In later life George and Ann Hamilton appeared to name two of their children after these brothers).

My problem remains to identify both parents. Frederick George HAMILTON was named as George's father in his marriage certificate of 1860, - but was reported 'deceased' by then (i.e. Frederick George HAMILTON (Engineer) had died by the time George HAMILTON got married in 1860).

So where now?


Kind regards
Victor

Hi there Victor - best reply on here rather than send messages - much better

Ann X

There are two Hamilton boys in the same school in 1841:

Name: Chas Hamilton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Edmonton
Hundred: Edmonton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
on page
Piece: 652
Book: 3
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30

Chas Hamilton 13
Wm Hamilton 16

Have you eliminated this George please?

1841

Name: George Hamilton
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Mary Islington West
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:Lower Hun....ton Terrace (Difficult to dechipher)

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 665
Book: 6
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Selina Watkins 30 School Mistress
Anne Treacher 15 Teacher
Fanny Nisbett 13
Emma Nisbett 8
Elizabeth Ward 13
Lucy Powell 6
George Hamilton 4
Ann Mayer 14

This one has the right POB - he is in a school - too many other people to list them all:

1851 England Census
about George Hamilton
Name: George Hamilton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Enfield, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Edmonton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 1703
Folio: 79
Page Number: 34

Address: West Side of Fore St, College House.

???

1881

Frederick HAMILTON Head M Male 70 Strand, Middlesex, England Oil & Colourman
Johanna HAMILTON Wife M Female 67 Scotland


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Source Information:
Dwelling 29 Broad Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341028
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0124 / 29
Page Number 13

George Hamilton
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1836 Enfield,? Middlesex,? England
census: 1881 Bromley,? Middlesex,? England
spouse: Anne Hamilton
children: George Hamilton,? Frederick Hamilton...


name: George Hamilton
age: 45
gender: Male
birth year: 1836
birthplace: Enfield, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Iron Moulder
address: 21 Stratfield Rd
census place: Bromley, Middlesex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341110
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 495 / 129
page number: 30

Hi Victor - welcome to the boards - here he is

1881

George HAMILTON Head M Male 45 Enfield, Middlesex, England Iron Moulder
Anne HAMILTON Wife M Female 41 Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England
George HAMILTON Son U Male 20 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Iron Moulder
Frederick HAMILTON Son Male 19 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Labourer Gen
William HAMILTON Son Male 17 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Bookbinder
Alfred HAMILTON Son Male 15 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Patter (...) (...)
Florence HAMILTON Daug Female 7 Old Ford, Middlesex, England Scholar
Katherine HAMILTON Daug Female 3 Old Ford, Middlesex, England Scholar
Alice HAMILTON Daug Female 11 m Bromley, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 21 Stratfield Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341110
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0495 / 129
Page Number 30

Could you post one of the censuses you found him in?
Thank-you

Added:
For reference
1871 England Census
George Hamilton
Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Hamilton
Gender: Male Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Luke Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Charterhouse
County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Whitecross Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 195 Piece: 408 Folio: 12 Page Number: 32
George Hamilton 35
Ann Hamilton 31
George Hamilton 10
Frederic C Hamilton 9
Alfred Hamilton 7
William Hamilton 5
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 408; Folio: 12; Page: 32; GSU roll: 824627.

I am trying to find the Birth Date and Place of Birth of my wife's ancestor George HAMILTON. I cannot find him in the 1841-1861 Census records. However, the 1871-1891 records suggest that he was born in either Enfield or Islington around 1836, and was an Iron Moulder. He married Ann HALL (born 1839 in Bishopsgate) in St Luke's Register Office in 1860. His marriage certificate suggests that his late father's name was Frederick George HAMILTON 'Engineer Deceased'. Between 1860 and his death in 1892, he appears to have moved around the St Luke, Islington, Hackney, Old Ford, and Bromley areas of London.

I have tried to crack this problem for several years, but so far with no success! Maybe he was born outside England and Wales. I would be most grateful for any help anyone can give. Thank You.
Victor