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You people are truly amazing! Horace Reginald WHILE (sometimes called himself 'Percy') was indeed a son of Cornelia Jane nee ASTON, - and a nephew of Cornelia's brothers: George Rix and Edwin John ASTON. I had no idea that Cornelia's brothers had emigrated to Canada, or that Horace and his family had joined them later. The finding of Horace's actual location in 1911 has been another bonus for me!

One remaining puzzle is why Horace returned to England so very soon after the death of his first wife (Emily Ann nee CAPPER).

Thank you all so much for your highly valued efforts and contributions. I will now concentrate on the details provided, and continue my search for the birth of George Edward Victor WHILE in 1913.

Regards
Victor

Hi Victor,

Margee (or someone) may correct me but I don't think that YOU can apply for the birth cert of George While until the 100 years is up.
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Entitled.html

As to why Horace went back to England? Well-with no wife and several children AND a newborn on his hands.....and memories of the winters on the Canadian Prairies .......??

Just out of curiousity- why are you so interested in George E V? And what happened to Ida Evelyn?

Maureen



:-) :-) :-)

Hi,

Here's Ida Evelyns' marriage;

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Evelyn While Name: Evelyn While
Spouse Surname: Nielson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 1137
Find Spouse: Joseph Neilson

Looks like they had 4 children.


And her death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ida Evelyn Neilson Name: Ida Evelyn Neilson
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1909
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1976
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0479

And maybe Josephs' death??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Joseph Neilson Name: Joseph Neilson
Birth Date: 28 Jan 1902
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 0844


Dee x

:-D :-D Darn,Dee but you're good!!!

I was getting worried about her!!!

Best,
Maureen

PS-Must be those Xray specs/binocs of yours! ;-)

Thank you Maureen. :-D

Can't beleive you remembered I'd got my xray speccy thingies, just must remember to take them off when the FIL comes round!!! ;-)

I can't pinpoint a death for Horace jnr, I suppose he could have died after 2005 though???

Got the delights of work in a little while, so I's be seeing yous later.

Thanks for that! But how did you discover that Ida Evelyn Nielsen had 4 children - so quickly? It usually takes me weeks to make such discoveries! (But then I am still rather new to this game!)

With regard to 'Victor', (coincidentally the same given-name as myself!), I recently made contact with a distant relative who was his daughter. Like myself, she had left things rather late, and then struggled to find the name of her grandmother who died in Canada when her own late father was still a baby!

I will have to be patient, and wait a little longer for the 100-year rule to run out!

Many thanks for your interest and help.

Kind regards
Victor

Oh! How very kind of you!

I think we're all OK with Emily Ann Capper being the mother??

Best,
Maureen

Yes, the evidence appears to be strongly in favour of Emily Ann nee CAPPER being Victor's mother. When I started this thread I was uncertain as to when Emily died, and whether Horace had re-married in Canada.

The evidence which you all put together leaves very little room for one to doubt that Emily was indeed Victor's Mum. I will just have to wait a year or so to get the definitive proof from Victor's birth certificate.

Many thanks to you all for throwing light on a very murky area of my knowledge!

Kind regards
Victor

I believe the reason for difficulties in tracing the life of 'Horace WHILE junior' after his return to England is that young Horace may in fact be the 'H' in 'William H. WHILE', born Aston in 1906 (Aston, A-J 1906, 6d, 435). This William married Isabella COWAN around 1927 (Liverpool, J-M 1927, 8B,105), and died in Prescott, Lancashire in 1966 aged 59 (Prescott, J-M 1966, 10F, 343). I am still trying to confirm this theory via family connections!

Kind regards
VICTOR

Sounds feasible - from the 1911 census, we know "Harris" was born in England May 1906. 1901 has the exact dob - from experience, the day and month are OK, but the year is not entirely trustworthy.

Thanks for that, mgnv! If the family can't sort this out I'll have to buy a birth certificate.
Regards
Victor