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Drummond/ Brewer

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Madmeg

Madmeg Report 4 Feb 2012 20:44

Oh George, I thought you were a teenager! What is this course, I want to come on it!!!! It sounds great. As a new pensioner myself, I could do with a challenge. Send me details.

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 1 Feb 2012 01:36

Thanks again LancashireAnn, Will see if pension can stretch to buying certificates :-D

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Jan 2012 13:44

this from lancashirebmd.org.uk narrows it down a bit (ie it was not a Cof E church)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BREWER John MORRIS Susan Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/42/12

Do you know if it is likely to be any of the non-conformist churches such as a Methodist (though I am not sure when the need for a registrar to be present was removed) or in an RC church. Otherwise it would be a registry office marriage for which the only way to find the details would be to buy the certificate

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 31 Jan 2012 00:11

Glitterbaby Kath and LancashireAnn. Thank you for all your patience and help. I will use this info on my exercise paper and put it on my tree and see if I get any hotmatches "Thanks Again"

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Jan 2012 00:06

Sorry George - not sure what you mean by I can visit anywhere for the info.

The only way to confirm the information is to start with Susan Morris and John Brewer's marriage certificate and work backwards from there. The county records office for Lancashire would be a starting place but without knowing the church where they married it could take a long time to find the information without actually buying the certificate. Family history is a very expensive hobby if you are going to get the proof you need to join up families.

Kath. x

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jan 2012 23:57

Thanks Kath (i can visit anywhere really) Where do you think would be the best place to find the info.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:53

Going even further back (but in a different area) there is this marriage - (the only Churchman/Drummond marriage on FreeBMD):-

Name: CHURCHMAN, Susanna
Registration District: Hereford
County: Herefordshire
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 26
Page No: 211

On the same page is James Drummond.

I think there must be some connection.

EDIT - just seen lancashireAnn's post, so James Drummond from the above marriage could be right.

Kath. x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Jan 2012 23:50

from lan-opc.org.uk more details on the Drummond marriage 1868

Marriage: 4 Feb 1868 St John the Evangelist, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
William Henry Morris - 20 Joiner Bachelor of Blackpool
Elizabeth Drummond - 17 Spinster of Blackpool
Groom's Father: Joshua Morris, Gas fitter
Bride's Father: James Drummond, Dealer
Witness: William Stobart; Mary Parr
Married by: Neville Jones, Off. Min.
Register: Marriages 1836 - 1872, Page 166, Entry 332
Source: LDS Film 1526144

as Kath says you need some certificates to prove these are the right people

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:47

Well - just guessing really without any certificates or proof to back it up - I'd say that perhaps William Henry Morris and Elizabeth Drummond might be the parents of Susan Churchman Drummond Morris.

Susan then married John Brewer.

Not sure what exactly you are trying to prove.

Remember this could all be completely wrong without buying certificates.

Kath. x

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jan 2012 23:42

Thanks Kath, Taking all the above info what would your conclusion be?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:39

There is this marriage in Fylde:-

Name: MORRIS, William Henry
Registration District: Fylde
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 8E
Page No: 741

Also on the page is Elizabeth Drummond.

Kath. x

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jan 2012 23:35

Madmeg, Ive only just started this course and shes given us a sheet to take home and use our iniciative to find things out. Its just an exercise.

Adult Skills For Life ( Family History )

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:29

Well that seems to be the connection lancashireAnn.

Kath. x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Jan 2012 23:27

the birth that Kath posted using lancashirebmd.org.uk - note the mother's maiden name - Drummond

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MORRIS Susan Churchman Drummond Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool DRUMMOND PLF/48/94

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Jan 2012 23:26

"They want answers I don't have". Does that mean your course leaders want these answers? Maybe you could either direct us to the course details, or list the objectives here.

Can I ask how old you are, and why you are doing this course. Being both nosey and caring, I hope.

Best wishes

Margaret

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 30 Jan 2012 23:23

George, I'm an ex-lecturer and used to worth with Edexcel. I don't know this course. Can you give us the exact title? or better still a link to it.

I am a little concerned as to how much help we should be giving you so as not to invalidate your qualification.

Best wishes

Margaret

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jan 2012 23:22

Glitterbaby. I thought that too as i am on Genesreunited And wanted to know quicker way of adding names and transfering and Gedcoms and anything else i dont know. Only problem is they want answers i dont have :-S :-S

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:19

I think you would need the marriage certificate for Susan's father's name.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Jan 2012 23:18

There is this birth that could be a possible for Susan:-

Name: MORRIS, Susan Churchman D
Registration District: Fylde
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 8E
Page No: 714

Could her second middle initial stand for Drummond perhaps?

Kath. x

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 30 Jan 2012 23:16

Kath thats sounds really Good Could you go at least one step further back Pretty Please