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31 Jan 2012 16:06 |
Would someone please lookup 2 sailings of an Agnes Cowan on FMP ?
A 1911 sailing from Glasgow to Canada and a 1913 sailing from London to Sydney My Agnes Cowan was born England 1887 Thanks
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MargaretM
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31 Jan 2012 16:12 |
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Agnes Cowan Name: Agnes Cowan Gender: Female Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Date of Arrival: 26 May 1911 Vessel: Corsican Search Ship Database: View the 'Corsican' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of arrival: Quebec Port of departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-4776 Looks like she's heading to Racine, Wisconsin.
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31 Jan 2012 16:25 |
Thanks Margee - would this be the same ship that sailed from Glasgow after setting off from Liverpool or vice versa ? and is there any personal data on the record - parents etc Is there any info available on the London to Sydney sailing Cheers Bazz
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31 Jan 2012 16:25 |
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Agnes Cowan <<<<<<<Servant Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1913 Birth Year: abt 1887 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: long newton burgoland Age: 26 Gender: Female Ethnicity/RaceĀ/Nationality: English Port of departure: Liverpool, England Port of arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Caronia Search Ship Database: Search the Caronia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Part of the address given is Stockton on Tees, heading the same place Margie posted
Mother listed as Mrs Cowan.......well I never!
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31 Jan 2012 16:27 |
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 about Mrs Agnes Cowan Name: Mrs Agnes Cowan Port of departure: London Port of arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 18 Aug 1913 Vessel Name: Norseman Miss Agnes Cowan Sydney, New South Wales 18 Aug 1913 Norseman aged one
Mr James Cowan Sydney, New South Wales 18 Aug 1913 Norseman Mary Cowan aged 3
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MargaretM
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31 Jan 2012 16:27 |
Or this one?
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Agnes Cowan Name: Agnes Cowan Gender: Female Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Date of Arrival: 8 May 1911 Vessel: Grampian Search Ship Database: View the 'Grampian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of arrival: Montreal, Quebec Port of departure: Glasgow, Scotland Roll: T-4774
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31 Jan 2012 16:27 |
Name: Agnes COWAN Date of departure: 29 April 1911 Port of departure: Glasgow Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada Date of Birth: Age: Adult Marital status: Single Sex: Female Occupation: Dom Passenger recorded on: Page 25 of 29 Printer friendly version Click here to view image The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Agnes COWAN Page 24 of 29 View transcript David COWAN Page 24 of 29 View transcript Eliza COWAN Page 24 of 29 View transcript Martha COWAN Page 24 of 29 View transcript Susan COWAN Page 24 of 29 View transcript Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: GRAMPIAN 124220 John Williams Allan Line Steamship Co Ltd Montreal, Canada 43293 7032 1180
Name: Mrs Agnes COWAN Date of departure: 28 June 1913 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia Date of Birth: 1888 (calculated from age) Age: 25 Marital status: Sex: Female Occupation: House Wife Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 28 Printer friendly version Click here to view image The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Miss Agnes COWAN Page 3 of 28 View transcript Mr James COWAN Page 3 of 28 View transcript Miss Mary COWAN Page 3 of 28 View transcript Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: NORSEMAN 110633 G Berry Aberdeen Sydney, Australia 22418 6929 1086
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31 Jan 2012 16:28 |
This is the one going to Racine: 1901 census transcription details for: Mill Hill Farm, Long Newton RG number: RG13 Piece: 4629 Folio: 28 Page: 3 Reg. District: Stockton Sub District: Stockton COWAN, William Head Married M 60 1841 Farmer Stirlingshire Scotland COWAN, Janet Wife Married F 51 1850 Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, Ann Daughter Single F 28 1873 Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, Alexander Son Single M 26 1875 Cart Wright Deaf An Dumb From Birth Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, James Son Single M 24 1877 Farmer's Son Ploughman On Farm Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, Andrew Son Single M 22 1879 Farmer's Son Ploughman On Farm Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, William Son Single M 20 1881 Blacksmith Argyleshire Scotland COWAN, Janet Daughter Single F 18 1883 Argyleshire Scotland >>>>COWAN, Agnes Daughter Single F 14 1887 Long Newton Durham COWAN, Mary Daughter Single F 8 1893 Long Newton Durham COWAN, Isabella Daughter Single F 4 1897 Long Newton Durham
Maureen
(She's on the Border Crossings to US-gives nok as father William Mill Hill Farm)
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Gee
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31 Jan 2012 16:29 |
This looks like the Agnes, going on the address on the shipping records
1911 England Census about Agnes Cowan Name: Agnes Cowan Age in 1911: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Long Newton, Durham, England Civil parish: Darlington County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Raventhorpe Darlington Marital Status: Single Occupation: Housemaid Registration district: Darlington Registration District Number: 543 Sub-registration district: Darlington ED, institution, or vessel: 02 Piece: 29505 Household Members: Name Age Charles Frederick Dixon 52 Anny Dixon 52 John Reginald Dixon 25 Charles Herbert Dixon 20 Kate Marjorie Dixon 18 Beatrice Mabel Dixon 14 Agnes Cowan 24 Agnes Eggleston 27 Lizzie Mack 16 Helen Hancock 26 Florence Blyth 26 Edit: There are two people by the same name and approx birth year, one from Durham and the other from Scotland...and another from Middlesex
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Bazz
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31 Jan 2012 16:33 |
Gins you've cracked it- that's the one one I was looking for, born in Longnewton Stockton on Tees Did she have anyone with her, I'm also looking for her sister Mary who also went walkabout ? The family would love to know what happened to them - is there any US Census info available for them ? thanks
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Gee
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31 Jan 2012 16:42 |
Bazz
Do you have her birth date?
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Bazz
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31 Jan 2012 16:47 |
Hi Gins - Just the FreeBMD record , registered Q4 1886 Stockton
Thanks everyone so far for your efforts
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Gee
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31 Jan 2012 16:51 |
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Mary Cowan Name: Mary Cowan Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1913 Birth Year: abt 1893 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: long newton Age: 20 Gender: Female Ethnicity/RaceĀ/Nationality: English Port of departure: Liverpool, England Port of arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Caronia Search Ship Database: Search the Caronia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Bazz
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31 Jan 2012 17:26 |
Thanks Gins Yes thats' her sister, birth registered Q3 1892 It's an absolute brilliant outcome. I wasn't confident of finding Mary as well because it was thought she may have married before leaving the UK
Thanks again everyone for your efforts
It would be nice to know what happened to them after arriving in the USA -or am I pushing my luck Bazz
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MargaretM
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31 Jan 2012 17:40 |
Ellis Island site which is free has the arrival of Agnes & Mary, New York, 1 June, 1913. Agnes is 26 and Mary 20, both servants. They give name of mother Mrs. Cowan, Long newton, Stockton on Tees. they're heading to Racine, Wisconsin to join friend Mrs. Hartnell, 16th. St., Racine.
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Gee
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31 Jan 2012 17:57 |
This fits with her parents as they were Scotish
1920 United States Federal Census about Mary Cowan Name: Mary Cowan Age: 26 Birth Year: abt 1894 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Milwaukee Ward 18, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1912 [1916] Relation to Head of House: Nurse Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Paul R Ellsworth 31 Esther P Ellsworth 22 Mary C Ellsworth 2 [2 6/12] Patrisia Ellsworth 1 [1 5/12] Mary Cowan 26 Flord Badewitz 28 Christina Madsen 32
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Bazz
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31 Jan 2012 20:16 |
Thank you everyone for your time and effort in resolving my query
It seems that Agnes went out the US via Quebec in 1911 and returned to England to escort her sister Mary to the US in 1913 An excellent result Many many thanks Bazz :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Bazz
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1 Feb 2012 16:43 |
Hi Gins Do you think you could have another look at the US censuses for say 1910 and 1920 to see if you can come up with anything on the Mrs Hartnell that Agnes and Mary were to link up with In 1911she lived in 16th Street Racine Wisconsin - I've been trying to find out which Electoral District it is in but without success I know the surname only isn't a lot to go on but here's hoping Thanks Bazz
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Gee
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1 Feb 2012 17:27 |
I cant see anything!
Ive looked at a shipping record and Agnes is going to:
1306 Sunhill Ave Racine Wis
The women who she is going to is named as Mrs Humble as far as I can see
Bazz
I would suggest the next step is to buy Agnes and Mary' birth certificates to get the full DOB. With this info we stand a better chance of finding them
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Bazz
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1 Feb 2012 19:31 |
Hi Gins, thanks for looking at it again I think I may have misled you because the address you quote must be the one that Agnes was heading for on the 1911 trip It is on the 1913 trip that they were both heading for 16th Street Racine, the address given for their friend Mrs Hartnell, and I was hoping that she may have been at the same address in 1910 and possibly the 1920 Censuses regards Bazz
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