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Hi,

Could someone please lookup:

John Newton
Mary Jane Newton née Robinson wife b1861 Cockermouth
Catherine Newton dau b1883 Cockermouth

John & Mary Jane married in 1881 after the census was taken.

There may be more children.

I can only find Catherine Newton in 1911 living with her Gran Mary Robinson in Cockermouth.

Thanks very much in advance,

Gillian

1901

Name: Catherine Newton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 4880
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 70
Catherine Newton 18

1891 shows gran's sruname as Bingen.......haven't checked the image

Hi Reggie,

Not sure if this is my Catherine.

Haven't come accross the name Burgess/Bingen before.

Thanks,

Gillian

Did the mother die in childrebirth?

Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
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NEWTON Mary Jane 21 Cockermouth 10b 337


Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Newton Catherine Cockermouth 10b 527

The gran could be John's mother......re-married

1891 England Census
about Kate Newton

Name:Kate Newton
[Catherine Newton]

Age:8

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883
Relation:Granddaughter
Gender:Female
Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:
Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:1

Neighbors:
Piece:4301
Folio:12
Page Number:18

Name Age
Catherine Bingen 62
Kate Newton 8

The Catherine I posted is the only one whose details match your criteria

Ah yes she could have done!

That's why I cannot find her maybe!

Can you see Catherine & her father John a widow in 1891?

G

Checked 1891 image.........surname is Burgess

Correction notified

1881 poss

Name: John Newton
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Catherine Burgess
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: St Helens St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5172
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 52
John Newton 25

No, she is with her grandmother, after whom she is probably named.

Do you have the marriage cert for the age and occupation of John ?

Thanks Reggie & Catherine.

I'll look into the Burgess connection.

Gillian

Look for John in 1881, to find out his mother's name

1871 England Census about Catherine Burgess

Name:Catherine Burgess
Age:42

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1829
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England

Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Household schedule number:46
Piece:5237
Folio:17
Page Number:27
Household Members:

Name Age
Robert Burgess 54
Catherine Burgess 42
Benjamin Burgess 22
John Newton 16
John Birkett 77



1861 England Census about John Newton

Name:John Newton
Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855
Relation:Son
Mother's name:Catherine Newton
Gender:Male
Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:Carlisle
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England
Street Address:

Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:2

Household schedule number:110
Piece:3935
Folio:23
Page Number: 20
Household Members:

Name Age
Catherine Newton 31
John Newton 6
John Birkett 67
Margaret Black 28

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
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BURGESS Robert Cockermouth 10b 664
Newton Catharine Cockermouth 10b 664
Scott Joseph Cockermouth 10b 664
Studholme Sarah Cockermouth 10b 664

Checked it for you...had time to spare

Name: Catherine Burgess
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: St Helens St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5172
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 52
John Newton 25

1871

Name: Catherine Burgess
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 146
Piece: 5237
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burgess 54
Catherine Burgess 42
Benjamin Burgess 22
John Newton 16
John Birkett 77

1891 ??
Name: John Newton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Newton
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4301
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
John Newton 36
Jane Newton 25
William B Newton 2
Mary E Newton 3/12

Class: RG12; Piece: 4301; Folio 13; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099411.

She is on 1901 census

So is there two families

Hi Glitter baby,

That could be John Newton & his mother Catherine Burgess just before John & Mary Jane's marriage later that year 1881.

I don't know John's occupation.

Thanks,

Gillian

The 1891 fits with his correct age.......born c1855, not c1861, as you thought