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OH! Maryb! quote

That makes perfect sense to me! :-D

Maureenxx

edit-where did my quote go? I was trying to point out that Maryb's comment of An"l and as*l seemed perfect.

M

??Abraham Bright 1761 -1818 married Sarah Anscell 8/10/1785 they had James 1794 died 1871 in Victoria Australia states son of Abraham.

So is Anscell the middle name of George Ashiel Bright.
Looks like it to me,given that George states his dad was James.

I know this is nothing to do with the question asked,but I like to find the background on the families I search for.

There are lots of records for a James Bright going to Australia,but I don't know which apply to George's dad.

Maryb

From the webpage that Maureen found ......

John Dawe (no details known) and Mary Adams (1787 - 1850)
Thomas Dawe (1815 - 1875) and Elizabeth Triggs (1815 - 1894)
Mary Selina Dawe (1844 - 1924) and George Ashiel Bright (1832 - 1920

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When Mary Selina married George Bright, she was Mary Selina ADAMS Dawe.
I wondered where the Adams came from as she was born to Elizabeth Triggs who then married Thomas Dawe.

I can't get my head round this one.

Why on earth would they remarry in 1871.
Where is George 1841/51.
1861 in Royal Navy did he go awol or something.

Only George Bright born 1832 in Somerset has the parents Thomas Bright 1803 and Jane 1802 (Note George gave himself second name Thomas )
1841 Bath Somerset.

Maryb.

Hi, Thanks everyone for your help, I will send off for some birth and marriage certificates hopefully it will help to find my real 2xGrandparents. Thanks again. Lin

Ah, yes Maureen I agree.

Um-rather think it's this one,Mike:
Births Sep 1878
Dawl William James Liverpool 8b 56

Maureen :-)

PM RECEIVED.

Im'e sorry but hav'nt got his birth certificate because I don't know his birthday I have tried looking it up but don't seem to be able to find it I know he died in about 1960s aged about 82 I was only a child and did'nt really know him. I would like to thank you for your help. Regards Lin

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Are you sure his middle name was James ?

Acording to 1881 census posted on page 1, Wiliam was W.J. aged 2.

If you look on freebmd you will see that this is the likely birth certificate for him. ( you don't need his exact birthday as you apply using the reference numbers)


Births Sep 1879
Dawe William John - Birkenhead 8a 561

http://www.familyhistorydata.co.uk/fhd_dawe.html

Would have helped!!!!

Maureen

Sorry if this one has been posted before:
1861 census transcription details for: 61, Cornwall Street, Stoke Damerel, Devonport
RG number: RG09 Piece: 1451 Folio: 30 Page: 5

Reg. District: Stoke Damerel Sub District: 3 Morice
DAWE, Thomas Head Married M 44 1817 Seaman R N
Ashburton
Devon
DAWE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1818
Ashburton
Devon
DAWE, Mary J A (S A on image) Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844
Ashburton
Devon
DAWE, Lucy A Daughter Unmarried F 9 1852
Devonport
Devon


Maureen

great grandfather was William Dawe born in Liverpool in 1879.


I assume you don't have his birth certificate ?

It should tell you if his father was George Thomas and hopefully give the previous names for his mother.


It could mean that George ashiel Bright is NOT your 3x Gt Grandfather at all.

Hmmm....
1851 census transcription details for: 54, Cornwall Street, Stoke Demerel, Devonport
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1882 Folio: 20 Page: 34

Reg. District: Stoke Damerel Sub District: Morice
DAWE, Elizabeth Head Married F 33 1818 Dress Maker
Ashburton
Devonshire
DAWE, Selina Daughter F 11 1840
Ashburton
Devonshire


Maureen

I don't see a birth for her. I don't know why she's a Dawe on her first marriage. I don't know why I took up this hobby in the first place.

Just looking for any likely parents and clutching at straws:
Marriages Mar 1841
Daw Thomas Newton Abbot 10 206
Triggs Elizabeth Newton Abbott 10 206

1841 England Census about Elizth Daw
Name: Elizth Daw
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: Ashburton
Hundred: Teignbridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Ashburton

Piece: 253
Book: 2
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Richard Triggs 45
Elizth Triggs 45
Mary Triggs 20
Wm Triggs 12
Elizth Daw 25
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 253; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Ashburton; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 10; Page: 15; Line: 9; GSU roll: 241324


Maureen

So she could have married 2 Georges ( One G.A. Bright 1864, one G.T.Dawe/Dawl 1871)
which means George didn't change his name ...

and her father's name was Triggs .

Hi Lin,
I tried to respond to your PM but GR keeps giving me an error message. grrr

I'm not getting anywhere with this tangled mess. Where did the surname Triggs pop up from?

The 1864 marriage cert would be interesting to see. It's difficult to be certain that they're the same couple.

Maureen

I'm a little confused. Here's the info from the marriage cert:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Mary Selina Bright
Name: Mary Selina Bright widow
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1871
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: George Thomas Dawl Occ:Mariner
Father's Name: Thomas Triggs Occ:Mariner
Spouse Father's Name: James Dawl Occ:Gardener

Maureen

Hi, I would like to thank everyone for their help I have found them in Steele street Liverpool in1881 and in 14 darwin street Liverpool in 1871 name Dawl, and I have found a marriage for George Thomas Dawle and Mary Selina Bright 1871 8b 212 in Liverpool, but Im'e not sure whether Im'e on the right track as I have got a bit confused over the names and did she marry the same man twice and he changed his name. Iv'e got a bit stuck again, I will have to send off for their marriage certificate. I would be very grateful if there is anymore help that anyone could give me, your help is most appreciated. Regards Lin.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: DAWL, George T
Address: 78 Rockingham Street Kirkdale Liverpool



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DAWL, George T Head Married
47 years M 78 1833 Labour Boilermaking Somersetshire Wells VIEW
DAWL, Selina Mary Wife Married
47 years F 65 1846 Devon Ashburton VIEW
DAWL, James Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Paint Manufactory Lankshire Lverpool VIEW
CROZIER, Mary Daughter Married F 29 1882 Lankshire Lverpool VIEW
CROZIER, John Son In Law M 31 1880 Carter General Ireland Tyrone Resident VIEW
SCANLON, Mary Granddaughter F 9 1902 School Lankshire Liverpool VIEW
SCANLON, Lucy Granddaughter F 7 1904 School Lankshire Liverpool VIEW
SCANLON, David Grandson M 5 1906 School Lankshire Liverpool VIEW

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Burial of George Thomas Bright ..... from ancestry

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Burials, 1813-1974 about George Thomas Bright

Name: George Thomas Bright
Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 3
Burial Date: 12 Nov 1873
Parish: Walton Park

from image:-

Address:- Steel Street


and his baptism!

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about George Thomas Bright

Name: George Thomas Bright
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1871
Christening Date: 22 Jan 1871
Christening Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: George Thomas Bright
Mother's name: Selena





sylvia

1901 census - household transcription
Person: DAW, James
Address: 46, Leyden Street, Kirkdale


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DAW, George Head Married M 69 1832 Watchman Timber Yd
Wells
Somersetshire VIEW
DAW, Mary S Wife Married F 57 1844
Davenport
Cheshire VIEW
DAW, James Son Single M 16 1885 Grocers Assist
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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