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NEW QUERY Edward Dicker aka George Watson

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MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Feb 2012 07:36

Hi all,

Can anyone please help me find

George Watson and his wife Susan Matilda nee Malone, leaving the U.K. between 1857 and 1860.

They were supposedly married in Dublin 19th February, 1857, this date is on their daughters birth certificate who was born in New South Wales in 1860.

Also, they had a son Alfred Joseph who was born 1858 in New South Wales, but as yet cannot find his record.

Any information, would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks, Joy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Feb 2012 08:33

Any chance he was born at sea?

Ozi

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Feb 2012 09:02

Distinct possibility, if I can find when his parents arrived, that would make it a lot easier

Joy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Feb 2012 11:07

Hi Joy - what were George and Susan Matilda's birth years?

Vera

Vera Report 12 Feb 2012 12:16

Found this site....but it means looking at different ships passenger lists

Good Luck

www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and...lists/nrs-5316

Regards Vera

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Feb 2012 20:46

Thanks Vera, only have approximate birth years George 1822 and Susan 1838, will try website you gave me

Joy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Feb 2012 06:58

?????
1863 WATSON EDWARD A (Father)GEORGE (Mother)SUSAN (District)BALMAIN
1865 WATSON SUSAN M (Father)GEORGE (Mother)SUSAN (District)PENRITH

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 13 Feb 2012 08:40

Ozibird

Yes, they are children of the family - I have all the other details on the children who were born in N.S.W. plus the children who were born in Victoria. I am only looking for Alfred Joseph's birth as well as when his parents arrived in the Colony.

Thanks

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 16 May 2012 12:18

Hi all,

A strange thing has happened with this family, I suppose it has also happened with other families doing research!

I have found the marriage of a EDWARD DICKER who married Susan Malone 9th February, 1857, St. Catherine's Parish, Dublin

The son I was looking for originally, named Alfred Joseph, I have found his birth registered in Paddington, N.S.W. - Parents names were Edward Dicker and Susan

On the birth certificate of Alfred, it states that Edward was a Sergeant in the 77th Regiment

On the birth certificate of his 2nd child, a daughter Emma, it says that her parents are George Watson and Susan, his occupation is now a bootmaker!

Does anyone have any ideas why he would have changed his name completely.

Now to try & find some information on Edward's family. On some of his children's certificates, there is mention of him being born in Wiltshire and Bershire

Thanks, Joy

Barry

Barry Report 16 May 2012 15:12

According to an Ancestry tree Alfred Joseph was born 17 December 1857 in Paddington Army Barracks Sydney and the birth was registered 6 April 1858
George's dob is given as 1833 in Swallowfield Wiltshire(now Berks)

If you want more info you can view the tree on this link - It's free, you just have to register

https://www.mundia.com/gb

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 May 2012 19:04

This seems to be the baptism:

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Edward Dicker
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 31 Mar 1833
baptism/christening place: SWALLOWFIELD,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Joseph Dicker
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Charlotte
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: P00854-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 291666
reference number:

Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV2-V8S : accessed 16 May 2012), Edward Dicker, 1833.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 May 2012 21:16

1851 England Census
Name: Charlotte Dicker
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Dicker
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Stratfield Say, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Swallowfield
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Risely Coom

Registration district: Wokingham
Sub-registration district: Wokingham
Piece: 1693
Folio: 81
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dicker 60 - Ag lab; Pamber, Berkshire
Charlotte Dicker 49
David Dicker 16 - Ag lab
George Dicker 13 - Ag lab
Elizabeth Dicker 10
Harriet Dicker 7

All children born Swallowfield

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 May 2012 21:23

You'll notice that the county is Wiltshire in 1841, but has changed to Berkshire by 1851.

1841 England Census
Name: Charlotte Dicker
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Swallowfield
Hundred: Amesbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: Risely Common

Registration district: Wokingham
Sub-registration district: Wokingham
Piece: 1165
Book: 14
Folio: 19
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Dicker 35 - not born in county
Caroline Dicker 15
Minia Dicker 10
Edward Dicker 8
David Dicker 6
George Dicker 3
Elizabeth Dicker 3 Mo

All children born in county.

safc

safc Report 17 May 2012 21:34

Husband Wife
Name EDWARD DICKEN SUSAN MALONE
Address RICHMOND BARRACKS POOLE ST
Occupation SERGEANT 77TH REGT N/R
Father JOSEPH DICKEN FARRELL MALONE
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Husband Age FULL
Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL
Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation MILLER
Wife's Father's Occupation WEAVER
Witness 1 WILLIAM PIRRIE (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 MARY ANN CARRELL (WITNESS FOR WIFE)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 May 2012 21:49

Joseph is a labourer in 1861, and dead by 1871. I can't find him in 1841.

???
Dicker Joseph 83 Wokingham 2c 250

Perhaps he worked at a mill, but I think Edward/George upgraded Joseph's status a bit.

Ozi

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 17 May 2012 22:09

Stratfield Saye is only about 7 km from Swallowfield, and 5km from Risely which is south of Swallowfield.

Ozi

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 17 May 2012 23:32

Thanks, MarieCeleste, Ozi & safc for your information. Just a query on what safc has posted, what does marital status B mean?

Can anyone find Edward on the 1851 Census?

Thanks, Joy

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 18 May 2012 00:13

I guess it means Bachelor, and for Susan S means Spinster.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 18 May 2012 00:13

???

B = Bachelor
S = Spinster

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 18 May 2012 00:26

From Rootschat

"The main body of the 77th Regiment were in Newport (Mons) for the 1851 census."



However, can't find Edward anywhere.

Ozi