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Oh No --- not an undutiful husband


My My what a skeleton to have in our cupboard ---


Thank you MC

Renes

... and there's more ...

The Dorset County Chronicle of 28 July 1864 reported that George Peaty got 21 days hard labour for leaving wife and family chargeable at Cerne.

I think I'll stop looking ........

I reckon we've got the picture that he was a bounder.

Hi just found this link I am looking into a friends history and think but not sure that Kate Rebecca Peaty daughter of George and Sarah Ann married the records show her as a Kate Furse marrying in 1885 Bideford Devon have you got any records of Kate R Peaty Thanks Sheila

Sheila, if you click on Irene's name and send her a message I'm sure she'll let you know what she's got on Kate.

Silly me I had forgotten about that. Thanks Sheila

Sheila

I have sent you a PM ......... I cannot help you with Kate Rebecca Peaty ,,,,, My interest was Esther her sister ........

However, I had a look for her ----- Found this ..... age seems odd ..... But seems like her ............

1901 census transcription details for: 46, Sussex Place, Bristol
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2402 Folio: 60 Page: 28
Reg. District: Bristol Sub District: Ashley Parish: Bristol Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: Bristol St Werburgh
Address: 46, Sussex Place, Bristol County: Gloucestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occ. Where Born
CANN, Walter W Head Married M 42 1859 Manager Boot FactoryBristol
CANN, Lavinia Wife Married F 40 1861 Bristol
CANN, Percy W Son Single M 16 1885 Cutter In Boot FactoryBristol
CANN, Ethel D Daughter Single F 11 1890 Bristol
CANN, Hilda S Daughter Single F 5 1896 Bristol
PEATY, Kate Servant Single F 22 1879 General Domestic
Cerne Abbas, Dorsetshire

and Shirley I getting..... found Kate in 1881...................... see second post

can you post details of the marriage you want looking at

Hi Thanks for that but was only interested if you had found her. Mine is strange I have a Kate Furse marrying a William Perry 1885 Bideford Devon (got them on all other censuses ) I cannot find Kate Furse anywhere so went to the birth place of my Kate which was Cerne Abbas Dorset and found a Kate Peaty. Who was working in a Inn near Dorchester in 1881 where William Perry was (he was in the Dorset Regiment) but if this is correct why Furse?????? I think I am going mad there is not connection

Sheila ... Who did she list as her father on her marriage certificate and what age did they give for her thanks

Nudge up

Hi Renes As I said I am doing the research for a friend and they will not want to get the marriage certificate so I think it will be a mystery. Thanks for all your help

Sheila, how do you know it was Kate Furse that William married, and not Emma Vanstone?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1885
BOND Samuel Bideford 5b 779
Furse Kate Bideford 5b 779
Perry William Bideford 5b 779
Vanstone Emma Bideford 5b 779

If it definitely was a Kate that he married, then could this be her in 1881?

FURSE, Charles H Head Single M 33 1848 Farmer 214 Acres 1 Labourer Parkham, Devon
FURSE, Kate Sister Single F 26 1855 Housekeeper Parkham, Devon
HARTNELL, Mary Servant Single F 22 1859 General Serv Putford, Devon
JONES, William Servant Single M 19 1862 Farm Serv (Indoor) Putford, Devon
HOOPER, Joseph Servant Single M 17 1864 Farm Serv (Indoor) Milton Damerell, Devon
STIDWELL, John Servant Single M 15 1866 Farm Serv (Indoor) Bradworthy, Devon

Piece: 2264 Folio: 35 Page: 5
Registration District: Holsworthy
Civil Parish: Sutcombe M

Address: Billhole, Sutcombe County: Devonshire

(Sorry for hi-jacking your thread Renes!)

I'm not sure how you couldn't find her on FreeBMD:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1855
Furse Kate Bideford 5b 495


and it all fits with the 1911:

PERRY, William Head Married26 years M 60 1851 Farmer Cornwall Bayton
PERRY, Kate Wife Married 26 years F 56 1855 Devon Parkham
PERRY, Millicent Kate Daughter Single F 25 1886 Farmers Daughter House Work Cornwall Bayton
PERRY, Sidney Thomas Son Single M 23 1888 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cornwall Bayton
PERRY, George Furse Son Single M 21 1890 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cornwall Bayton
PERRY, Laura Emma Daughter Single F 18 1893 Farmers Daughter House Work Cornwall Bayton
ELLACOTT, Bert Servant Single M 20 1891 Callerman Cornwall Bayton
BAILEY, Thomas Servant Single M 24 1887 Horse Man Devon Werrington
FURMAMORE, Ellen Hawkin Servant Single M 17 1894 General Servant Devon North Petherwin

RG number: RG14 Piece: 13553 Reference: RG14PN13553 RG78PN797 RD290 SD2 ED1 SN1
Registration District: Launceston
Sub District: North Petherwin
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: Bayton

Address: Dorset Boyton Launceston County: Cornwall

You have not hi jacked MC and thanks so much for help sweetie

I have been going backwards trying to see some logic to the FURSE surname

There were a lot of marriages and remarriages ,,, in the Jacobs Peaty line and base borns ........

I added Sheila·s PM to the thread as I could not see how Kate Furse was somehow thought to be Kate Rebecca Peaty

It did/does not help that Kate Peaty is quite elusive ---

Renes

On the 1911 census it showed Kate ? and William Perry he was born in Oxfordshire but in 1881 joined the army in dorchester so he was in the area. Her birth place was Cerne Abbas Dorset. First child Dora/Doris Bessie Perry baptised in 1885 Bincombe Dorset abode Kingston Upon Thames but born Beaminster Devon? So it gets very complicated. Known on census records as Kate but death says Kate R. They also say been married 26 years on 1911 census but we all know this information can be wrong. My grandfather was living with another woman not his wife but said it was his wife and gave his name so we know there is incorrect information given!!!!

Sheila - is it your grandfather or your friends?

So is that the wrong 1911 census for "your" William Perry? Because I'm sure it's the right one for the William Perry that married Kate Furse.

Why not start a new thread of your own so we can look at it properly rather than confusing Rene's thread?

Sheila

This is from Bincombe Parish Records

7-3-1886; Dora Bessie; daughter of; Enoch William & Kate; PERRY; Kingston On Thames; Painter;

So was William actually Enoch William

MC

Sheila did not add Kate to my thread ............ I did

Kate was the sister of Esther who married into my Turners

This thread was originally started to establish their parents

Sheila pm me and asked about Kate ...... I had recorded her birth etc but had not researched her.............. had a quick look and could not find her after ¿¿ date -- so added to thread

Renes (^_^)

Looks like Dora Bessie was actually born Dorset?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Dora Bessie Perry
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1886
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 316

Sometimes we just can't avoid getting certificates to get to the bottom of these mysteries! Her birth certificate should end speculation about mother's maiden name.

Oh, I see Renes! :-)

Well if everyone's happy I'll plod on!

Looks like he did indeed go by the name of Enoch (k) in 1891:

PERRY, Enock W Head Married M 29 1862 General Dealer Banbury, Oxfordshire
PERRY, Kate Wife Married F 24 1867 Cerne Abbas, Dorsetshire
PERRY, Bessie Daughter F 5 1886 Upway, Dorsetshire
PERRY, Ethel Daughter F 4 1887 Norbiton, Surrey
PERRY, William Son M 1 (16M) 1890 Molesey, Surrey

Piece: 615 Folio: 83 Page: 21
Registration District: Kingston
Civil Parish: East Molesey

Address: Cul De Tac Road, East Molesey County: Surrey

MC ----- I posted the birth of Dora Bessie --- from Bincombe Parish Records
with father named as Enoch William ... a painter ----- Kinston on Thames


also I not sure why the 1901 Census that lists Kate Peaty born Cerne Abbas BUT 1879 ----- --- ----all oddities

I could not see that birth in Freebmd with that c. birth year