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Hi

Im looking for more info on my 2x great grand father Willam Charles Crabtree.

This is the info I have so far.

B- 1881 in Birminham
1902 marries Rose Gee
1911- living in Caversham (Reading, Berkshire) with Rose.
Woking as a Mill Carter
2x children- Rose Ellen Crabtree (my Great Nan)
Lily age 5 months who I think has died.
William died1914 aged 33yrs!

If anyone has any info it would be much appreciated as I have look in all the census and family trees.

Many thanks

Laura

Hello Laura, are you trying to trace him back in time, or coming forward?

Laura,

Do you have him on any other census, or is the 1911 census the only one?


Tracey x

I can only find him in 1911 census

The other info on when he was born and who he married was given to me from my nan.

I think getting his marriage certificate is a good starting point to see what info it has about his father:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1902
Crabtree William Charles Reading 2c 962
Gee Rose Reading 2c 962

I saw that birth too Kath, but was able to track him separately on the 1911. (That one married a Bertha).

Am wondering if Laura's William Charles was born before parents married so registered in mother's maiden name?

For reference, this appears to be the correct 1911:


CRABTREE, William Charles Head Married M 30 1881 Mill Carter Burmingham Warwick
CRABTREE, Rose Wife Married F 30 1881 Reading Berks
CRABTREE, Rose Ellen Daughter F 1 1910 Reading Berks
CRABTREE, Lily Florence Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Caversham Oxon

Registration District: Henley
Sub District: Caversham
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: Caversham

Address: 12 Piggotts Road Caversham Reading County: Oxfordshire

They'd been married 8 years. The original form says 2 children born, only 1 still alive.

I have found this death....

Name:William C Crabtree
Birth Date:abt 1881
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death:80
Registration district:Essex South Western
Inferred County:Essex
Volume:5a
Page:150

Is this the same guy?


Tracey x

Tracey - I think that's the other one who married Bertha.

??

1881

CRABTREE, Joseph Head Married M 50 1831 Gun Maker
London
Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Annie Wife Married F 40 1841
London
Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Joseph Son Single M 16 1865 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Catherine Daughter Single F 15 1866 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Jessie Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Annie Daughter Single F 14 1867 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Clara Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Charles Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, George Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Maud Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
CRABTREE, Lilly Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW
>>>>>CRABTREE, William Son Single M 0 1881
Bham
Warwickshire VIEW

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Piece:
3020 Folio:
9 Page:
9 Registration District:
Aston

Civil Parish:
Aston Municipal Borough:
Address:
51, Larches St Private, Aston County:
Warwickshire

Just thinking outside the box....

Registration event: Death

Name: CRABTREE, Charles W
Unit:148 Sqdn.
Rank:Pilot Officer
Number:173346
Year: 1944
Volume : 4
Page: 23
Record source: GRO War Death R.A.F. All Ranks (1939

Could he have actually been born Charles William?


T x

hi

thank you so much for trying. I know the info about him being a mill cater.

He died age 33 and I dont know how, why etc.

I some how found out that his father was called thomas crabtree but not sure where he was born and who he married (if he married)

Laura, his marriage reference to Rose was posted above. You can order a copy of the certificate from GRO for £9.25

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

oh no i put thomas instead of joseph!!!! joseph is the right one!!
choccy where did you find this??

Hmmmm could William have altered his middle name?

Births Mar 1881 CRABTREE William Henry Aston 6d 267
Births Jun 1882 Crabtree William James Aston 6d 328

I also have to ask the question, did he definately die...or did the family get told he'd 'died' because he'd wandered off with someone else?


T x

Baptism of the eldest child?

Name:Joseph Richard Crabtree
Record Type:Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1865
Baptism Date:26 Feb 1865
Father's Name:Joseph Richard Crabtree
Mother's Name:Ann Crabtree
Parish or Poor Law Union:Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Registers

Father is a Gun Maker
Living at Garden Place?

T x

Found on FMP


1871

CRABTREE, Joseph Head M 45 1826 Middlesex VIEW (Gunmaker) (born Whitechapel)
CRABTREE, Annie Wife F 32 1839 Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Joseph Son M 6 1865 Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Catherine Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire VIEW
CRABTREE, Annie Daughter F 4 1867 Worcestershire VIEW
CRABTREE, Jessie Daughter F 3 1868 Worcestershire VIEW
CRABTREE, Florence Daughter F 1 1870 Worcestershire VIEW
FORD, Richard Grandfather M 54 1817 Middlesex VIEW

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Piece:
3137 Folio:
90 Page:
21 Registration District:
Aston

Civil Parish:
Aston Municipal Borough:
Birmingham Address:
Montpellier Street, Aston, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire





different wife in 1861 ?


1861

CRABTREE, Joseph Head Married M 41 1820 Gun Maker
Whitechapel
Middlesex VIEW
CRABTREE, Mary Wife Married F 40 1821
Bishop Stortford
Hertfordshire VIEW

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Piece:
273 Folio:
120 Page:
22 Registration District:
Whitechapel

Civil Parish:
Whitechapel Municipal Borough:
Address:
28, Newnham Street, Whitechapel County:
London

william def died.

thank you all once again for helping!!!

sorry but whats FMP?

1851

CRABTREE, Joseph Head Married M 31 1820 Gun Maker Percussioner
Whitechapel
Middlesex VIEW
, Mary Wife Married F 31 1820
Chipping Ongar
Essex VIEW

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Piece:
1546 Folio:
99 Page:
1 Registration District:
Whitechapel

Civil Parish:
Saint Mary Whitechapel Municipal Borough:
Tower Hamlets Address:
5, Scarborough Street, Saint Mary Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets County:
Middlesex