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Help please, a 1911 census look up

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Ann

Ann Report 27 Feb 2012 23:08

I am helping a friend with her family history, She knows very little of her family, However we think we have found them in the 1911 census INDEX

Walter HARDING born Bath 1883, Married 1904 Occupation RAILWAY
With Wife Kate b 1883 Hants, daughter Dorothy b 1909 Shepton Mallet, son Henry born 1909 Shepton Mallet
Please can some look them up.

Kate was born in 1883 Bittern Southampton had siblings Frank, Harry G born c1885 , & Rose born c1888 .
If any one can help just to get her started.

Thank you Ann E
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Feb 2012 23:12

HARDING, Walter Head Married M 28 1883 Brakesman Bath Somerset
HARDING, Kate Wife Married F 28 1883 Bitterne Hants
HARDING, Henry Son M 5 1906 School Chippenham Wilts
HARDING, Dorothy Daughter F 2 1909 Chippenham Wilts

Registration District: Shepton Mallet
Sub District: Shepton Mallet
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Shepton Mallet

Address: Kent Shepton Mallet Somerset County: Somersetshire

Married 6 years & 11 months. No other children born

Helen

Helen Report 27 Feb 2012 23:13

1901 England Census about Walter Harding
Name: Walter Harding
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred Harding
Mother's name: Emma Harding
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: Widcombe St Thomas a Becket
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Lyncombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 2339
Folio: 102
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Harding 41
Emma Harding 42
Alfred Harding 20
Walter Harding 18
Lily Harding 17
Maud Harding 15
Charles Harding 12
Herbert Harding 10
Louisa Harding 5
Nellie Harding 3
Florence Harding 5 Months

Ann

Ann Report 27 Feb 2012 23:30

Thank you very much Helen, any info is much appreciated, I am now going to see if I can find them in free BMD.
Ann E

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 08:31

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)

Bampton Kate Chippenham 5a 145
Harding Walter James Chippenham 5a 145

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 08:34

1891 England Census
about Kate Bampton Name: Kate Bampton
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frank Bampton
Mother's name: Kate Bampton
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
Town: Bitterne
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 924
Folio: 39
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Bampton 38 (General Labourer) Shirey Hampshire
Kate Bampton 46 Romsey Hampshire
William T Bampton 13
Frank Bampton 10 Kate Bampton 8
Harry G Bampton 6
Rose Bampton 3
Charles Pragnell 32 (Visitor)
(Res: 2 Spring Cottage, Bitterne)



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 08:38

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BAMPTON, Kate
Address: Roumania Cottage Brook Road Bitterne

BAMPTON, Frank Head Married
35 years M 58 1853 General Labourer Hants Shirley VIEW
BAMPTON, Kate Wife Married F 66 1845 Hants Romsey VIEW
BAMPTON, William John Son Single M 33 1878 General Labourer Hants Shirley VIEW
SIBSEY, John Boarder Widower M 59 1852 General Labourer Surrey Lambeth VIEW
BARRETT, Harry A Visitor Married M 44 1867 Chauffeur Domestic Yorks Charlsetown VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6044 Reference:
RG14PN6044 RG78PN275 RD100 SD1 ED22 SN246

Registration District:
South Stoneham Sub District:
St Mary Extra Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Bitterne

Address:
Roumania Cottage Brook Road Bitterne County:
Hampshire
(6 children born and living)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 10:42

I couldn't find a marriage in the correct time frame and area for Frank Bampton.

First child....

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Bampton Helen Louise S. Stoneham 2c 61


I think this might be his marriage entry.....he has been mistrancsribed as Brampton...


Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)

BRAMPTON Frank S. Stoneham 2c 110
CHAPMAN Kate S. Stoneham 2c 110

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 10:46

Kate is a Servant in the 1871 and 1861 census.
(Her brother Arthur is with her in 1871)

1851 England Census
about Kate Chapman Name: Kate Chapman
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Chapman
Mother's name: Elizth Chapman
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Romsey, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Romsey Infra
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
Town: Romsey
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Romsey
Sub-registration district: Romsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Piece: 1671
Folio: 216
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
John Chapman 36 (Romsey) Cordwainer
Elizth Chapman 35 (Romsey)
William Chapman 14
Louisa Chapman 12
Harriet Chapman 10
Eliza Chapman 10
Mary Chapman 8
Kate Chapman 6
George Chapman 4
Arthur Chapman 2
Henry Chapman 6 Mo
(Res: Industry Row)


1841 England Census
about John Chapman Name: John Chapman
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Romsey Infra
Hundred: Romsey Division Kings Sombourn (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Romsey
Sub-registration district: Romsey
Household Members: Name Age
John Chapman 25 (Jouneyman)
Elizabeth Chapman 25
William Chapman 5
Sueiza Chapman 2 <<<<<Looks like "Luieza".....so probably the Louisa on the 1851.







PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 11:42

1861 England Census
about Frank Bampton Name: Frank Bampton
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Bampton
Mother's name: Ellen Bampton
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Nursling
Ecclesiastical parish: Rownhams
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
John Bampton 39 (Brickmaker and Labourer) South Stoneham
Ellen Bampton 41 Southampton
William G Bampton 18 <<<<Looks more like 11 on the image.
Frank Bampton 8
Mark Bampton 5
Rose Bampton 2
Mary Gass 39 (Lodger)
(Res: Brownhill Road)


1871 England Census
about Frank Bampton Name: Frank Bampton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ellen Bampton
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Nursling
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
Town: Nursling
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Romsey
Sub-registration district: Romsey
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Bampton 51 (Widow)
William G Bampton 21
Frank Bampton 18
Mark Bampton 15
Rose Bampton 12
George G Bampton 9


Deaths Mar 1869 (>99%)
Bampton John 47 Romsey 2c 57






Ann

Ann Report 28 Feb 2012 11:50

Thank you very much Prickly Holly ,
That is great, my friend will be very delighted with all the Info.
Ann E

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Feb 2012 13:29

On the 1851 census, is states son William G Bampton is 11 years old...

But looking at the image.......i would say it reads 1 year old.


1851 England Census
about John Bampton Name: John Bampton
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Bampton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
Household Members: Name Age
John Bampton 28 (Labourer)
Ellen Bampton 31 (Seamstress)
William Gould Bampton 11
(Res: Upper Shirley Road)


Which ties in with this...


Births Dec 1849 (>99%)
BAMPTON William Gould S Stoneham 7 239

and...

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
Bampton John S. Stoneham 7 300
Gould Ellen S Stoneham 7 300



Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 01:30

Thank you Prickly Holly for the additional info, I have only just found it.

Please can any one find Rose Lydia Bampton born1887 South Stoneham in the 1911 census, she is not at home with mum & dad, I cant see her in the index she may have been wrongly transcribed!

thanks Ann

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 7 Mar 2012 01:51

A Maybe ??

Marriages Mar 1908

BAMPTON Rose Lydia Alverstoke 2b 890
BYLES Joseph Robert Alverstoke 2b 890
Heather Minnie Alverstoke 2b 890
WORLEY Edward John Alverstoke 2b 890

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1911 England Census 1911 England Census
Name: Rose Byles
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bitterne, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Westfield Road, Gosport, Hants
Marital Status: Married

Years Married: 3

Estimated Marriage Year: 1908
Registration district: Alverstoke
Registration District Number: 91
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 5631
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Byles 28 ---Cabinet Maker---Gosport, Hampshire
Rose Byles 23
Joseph Byles 2 ---Gosport, Hampshire
Frank Byles 1 ---Gosport, Hampshire


Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 5631; Schedule Number: 117; .


Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 02:20

Thank you very much Barbara,
But I don’t think that is her? The Rose Bampton, I am looking for was born South Stoneham & married William John Stevens in1915 at Pewsey There was a child born to her before she married, not sure when or where.

Ann

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 02:46

Bitterne is part of South Stoneham

Are you sure that marriage in 1915 is the person you are looking for?

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Bampton Rose Stevens Pewsey 5a 427
Stevens William J Bampton Pewsey 5a 427


BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 7 Mar 2012 06:23

This is the only birth I can find for "Rose Bampton" between 1885 1890 (I did the search without a middle name)

Births Dec 1887

Bampton Rose Lydia S. Stoneham 2c 59

Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 11:13

Thank you Jax & Barbara, the birth of Rose & the marriage you found is right.
I did a search in the index of F my P for just ”Rose " born South Stoneham 1887 + - 1 year,
the only one that came up was
“ Household BRENTON, Rosa 1887 24 F Southampton Hampshire”
I don’t know if that is her????

Ann

Ann

Ann Report 7 Mar 2012 15:20

please has anyone any ideas where Rose could be?
Ann

jax

jax Report 7 Mar 2012 15:36

So who is this Rose Lydia Bampton who married Joseph Byles who was the correct age and born in the right place?

There were no others with the middle name of Lydia, why do you think she married William Stevens also in a different county from where she was born?