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Hello, I have posted before and I thank you all for the advice given. I have a problem finding a death certificate of Edith Maud Crawford (nee Rowell) who died on January 2nd 1935 aged 38.She is buried with her father in St Andrews Cemetery, Newcastle and her dates are on the headstone, so I know that they should be right, but I cannot find the piece of paper to confirm. I hope someone can help me. Thank you for looking. Dawn

Do you think you could have read the headstone wrongly?

There is this death in 1955 age 58 (3's and 5's can sometimes look similar if the inscription is worn):-

Name: CRAWFORD, Edith M
Registration district: Northumberland Central
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1955
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:58
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 300

Kath. x

I had the reading off the gravestone from Ancestry, but she was my husbands maternal grandmother and we know that she died in the 1930's cos her children were put in care (where we do not know). It was assumed that she died in kent but how she came to be buried with her father in Newcastle we do not know! Her children were raised in kent after her death.
Thank you.
Dawn x

There is only one death in 1935 for an Edith M. Crawford and that was in Hemsworth, Yorkshire and was a 7 year old.

Perhaps she did die in Newcastle (most likely if she was buried there as it would have been very expensive to have her body taken from Kent to Newcastle in those days).

The record I found was from Findmypast. Perhaps they mis-transcribed the year and age. You could perhaps phone the GRO and ask if they could check both years for you.

EDIT - Just checked the image and the death is definitely in 1955.

If her children were put into care is it possible that she didn't die when you thought she did but that she just left home and went to live with her father?

Kath. x

Has her name just been added to the headstone in memory? who passed away first?

Is her surname on the headstone Crawford please? Just wondering if she lived with another man after she left her children and was known by a different surname?

this birth index may fit with that death age
Name: ROWELL, Edith Maud
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: NorthumberlandYear of registration: 1896
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Q3
Volume no:[10B
Page no:151

From a transcription of the cemetery headstones
In loving memory of George Scott Rowell who died March 29
th
1926 aged 56 years. Edith Maud Crawford daughter of
the above who died January 2
nd
1935 aged 38 years.

Jan, 2 trees on ancestry have her year of birth as 1896 so I would agree that the birth you have given is correct. Also the 1955 death would also seem appropriate.

From the trees her husband died in 1927. Perhaps she left home because she just couldn't cope with two young children on her own?

Her mother had died in 1902 and Edith seems to be the only child from her father's first marriage althoug he had a daughter (b. 1907) from his second. Doesn't look as though Edith had an extended family to help with her young children.

for info the family in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 23, Albany Gardens, Whitley

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4805 Folio: 136 Page: 25


Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: Whitley
Parish: Whitley Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Cullercoats St Paul City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 23, Albany Gardens, Whitley
County: Northumberland

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
ROWELL, George S Head Married M 30 1871 Commercial Traveller
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
ROWELL, Daisy M Wife Married F 28 1873
E C
London
ROWELL, Edith M Daughter F 4 1897
Newcastle upon Tyne
Northumberland
PROCTOR, Kathleen B Servant Single F 20 1881 General Servant Domestic
Darlington
Durham

Have you rung Newcastle Coucil who hold records for St Andrews to see if they have a record of burial?.....they are very helpful.

Thank you all for your replies, sorry I have only just seen them, for some reason the "watch this" is not working - or maybe my computer is playing up. I will try to ring Newcastle Council and see if they have any record. I know that the Crawford sie of the family would not take the children in when she died. Maybe I am wrong and she did leave her children when she couldnt cope. I will probably never know as my in laws died a good few years ago and I know my father in law so wanted to find his mothers grave. I thank you all for your time and effort.
Dawn x

The headstone does say Crawford and her father died first.

Dawn please update on here if you have any luck when you ring the council.
I wonder why she wasn't buried with her husband if he died first

Her husband was a Navy man and died at the Royal Haslar hospital in Hampshire, where he was also buried. He died 17 Sept 1927 aged just 40. I will update as soon as I have spoken to Newcastle council. Thank you x

Hi folks, sorry it's taken me so long, but here goes:
Edith maud Crawford was buried on 5th january 1935 aged 38 according to newcastle cemeteries division so the information on the headstone is correct. And according to them the majority of people were buried within 7 days of death so January 2nd would be correct!
And I am still not able to find a certificate to confirm this, what with wildcat searches and all the possibilities of spelling mistakes and her maiden name and double barrelling of it. No joy.
Thank you all for your help, and I will carry on with the search!

Where was Edith living when her husband died...was it the Medway area?

Could she have remarried, then reverted to her 1st married name at burial?

Have you checked with the registrar closest to the burial ground, incase the information never made it into the GRO master index.?

Was there no home address on the burial record.? This might give a different registration ditrict.

As the children's father had Navy connections, could they have been schooled at one of the Royal Navy homes / colleges?

Gwyn

Thank you for your reply,Gwyn. All I know is what you see. My father in law knew that his mum died young and that no Crawford family would take them in, so thay were in a childrens home somewhere on the Medway, and were fostered out at different times (he had a brother) to families in that area. The Newcastle cemeteries people could give me no more information. I do not know where she lived at the time of her death but rumour had it that she died of influenza (she was a nurse) . I have not tried the registrar nearest to the burial ground in Jesmond. I will try that. Edith was living in the medway area when her husband died.

If I was you I would ring the GRO in Southport so that you can speak to someone. Say you want to order the death certificate that is on the index as 1955 but that you think the year might actually be 1935 and so may have been mistranscribed from the original entry.

It is too much of a coincidence that the 1955 death is the right name, in the right place in the right quarter of the year and the age at death is 58 rather than 38. I think someone has just mistaken a 3 for a 5 in both cases.

Kath. x

Someone must have been responsible for having her name put on the headstone. Given that she had no siblings only half siblings it may be worth trying to work forward from them.

It may be a bit of a long shot but could be worth a try. My Gran used to tell me about her half sister who was actaully married before my Gran was born. My Gran was one of ten children from her father's second marriage but was probably closer to her half sister than any of her full brothers and sisters.