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Bren - it would be better if you contacted Vikki and Tracie directly by sending a personal message. Just click on their name.

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Good luck!

I have a photograph of Charles and Minnie's wedding in 1918 -Charles is in uniform Minnie Slater was my mother' s (Gwen Crow''s) aunt - -Minnie was a sister of Clara Bessie Slater -my grandma -both are on the photo along with many of the 11 slater children. According to my mother ( who is still with us, a lively 100 years ol)d) Minnie and Charles had a haulage business and lived in a big house in Odessa road.
All the best
Bren deacon

Hi Vikki and welcome to the boards

Just in case Trac doesn't check the thread, you could send a personal message by clicking on the name.

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Good luck :-)

Hello,

My husband is the grandson of Charles Ormond Cave. He was married to Minnie and they had 4 children. The first child was Terrance Cave who was killed in the second world war, the second was Lawrance Ormond Cave (my husbands father), the third was Shirley Cave, and the last was Colin Cave. Unfortunately Lawrance passed away roughly 15 years ago but Shirley and Colin are still alive. Colin lives in Colchester and Shirley now lives abroad in Spain. Please get in touch as we would love to know about possible information regarding family links from Charles's fathers first marriage. We could possibly have generations of the same family that we didn't know existed!

Kind regards,

Vikki

1861 England Census

Name: Charles Cave
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel Cave
Mother's Name: Mary A Cave
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 12 St Anns Road, Stepney

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Piece: 295
Folio: 56
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Cave 32
Mary A Cave 30
>>>>Charles Cave 5
>>>>James Cave 3
Martha Cave 8 Months




Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 295; Folio: 56; Page: 20; GSU roll: 542609.




looks like Daniel has died by 1871

1871 England Census

Name: Charles Cave
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Brown
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Brown
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 562
Folio: 105
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Brown 39
Mary Ann Brown 39
James T Brown 7
Charles Cave 15
James Cave 13
Matha Cave 10



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 562; Folio: 105; Page: 2; GSU roll: 823315.




Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Brown William Mile End 1c 756
Cave Mary Ann Mile End 1c 756

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Charles William Cave
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Spouse Name: Herrietta Blishen
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Jul 1895
Parish: Mile End Old Town Holy Trinity
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Daniel Cave (deceased) Carpenter
Spouse Father Name: Robert Blishen
Register Type: Parish Register



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town, Register of marriages, P93/TRI, Item 020.


address of groom - 12 St Anns Road, Stepney

one of the witnesses is Edward Walter Cave





London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: James Thomas Cave
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: Jane Brind
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Jan 1881
Parish: Mile End Old Town Holy Trinity
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Daniel Cave (deceased)
Spouse Father Name: John Bishop Brind
Register Type: Parish Register



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town, Register of marriages, P93/TRI, Item 016.

Thankyou thats 2 right ones for sure no more duds the branches are getting thicker on this dodgey tree of mine Thankyou for you answers.
All of you have helpd so much from Tracie

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: James Thomas Cave
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Spouse Name: Maude Florence Hicks
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Sep 1904
Parish: Bow Common St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Thomas Cave (Foreman)
Spouse Father Name: John Alfred Hicks
Register Type: Parish Register



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Paul, Bow Common, Register of marriages, P93/PAU1, Item 042.


address of groom - 10 Chiltern Road, Bromley by Bow




1901 (same address)

126 CAVE, James T Head Married M 42 1859 Foreman Gas Stoker
Mile End
London VIEW
126 CAVE, Emma M Wife Married F 31 1870
Bermondsey
London VIEW
126 CAVE, James Son Single M 19 1882 Coal Porter
Mile End
London VIEW
126 CAVE, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1884 Biscuit Packer
Bow
London VIEW
126 CAVE, Edith M Daughter Single F 17 1884
Bow
London VIEW
126 CAVE, Charles O Son Single M 9 1892
Bow
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
350 Folio:
13 Page:
17

Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
38 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Bromley All Hallows

Municipal Borough:
Address:
10, Chiltern Road, Bromley, London County:
London

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Edith Maud Emma Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1890
Baptism Date: 15 May 1890
Father's Name: James Thomas Cave
Mother's Name: Emma Maria Cave
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Mary, Bromley Saint Leonard, Register of baptisms, P88/MRY2, Item 010.


born 26th April 1890
Occupation - Foreman Stoker

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Charles Ormond Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1893
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1893
Father's Name: James Thomas Cave
Mother's Name: Emma Maria Cave
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


born 24th July 1893
Occupation of father - Foreman Stoker

Hi Jax

Yes he is there in my tree am still not sure if he is the right Charles Cave.
the children are soo far apart I am try to find out if he is the son for sure of James Thomas Cave 1857 who was my G Grand fathers brother who was Charles William Cave born 19.08.1855 died 6.07.1923 with all the information yous have given me now i can go a head and order the certificates and they should be the right ones. I have order so many wrong certificates B.D.& M for this Cave family of mine i have shares in the company so i needed some more help and information .and just get it so wrong i just wanted to be sure this time I have looked and never came across his army stuff so thankyou for all the help . Regard from Tracie

Tracie

As Choccy has mentioned above

If you have one of his children in your tree why have you asked whether he married without mentioning this child. he must be attached to someone?

Choccy


I have been through them again ......... and found I hadn't gone quite far enough!


You are correct!


what a thing for jax and I to both miss that!




sylvia

looks like Tracie already has one of the children of the marriage (born 1921) if you go to 'Search Trees'

the Army records are for Charles Ormond Cave


20 Odessa Road, Forest Gate

Gun shot wound to the hand




perhaps someone else can have a look in case I'm wrong

Good one, Choccie



In reading the Medical Records of Charles Ormond last night .......... I didn't go quite far enough


He was awarded the Military Medal 14-8-16 ........... posted in the London Gazette 11(??) - 9 -16

He married Minnie Maud Slater 31-8-18

Both occurred while he was based in Aldershot as a member of the 52 Company



sylvia

Hmmmm

I went through those Army images it said there were 16 but that seems to be number 18

well done

jax

3 possible/probable children born

1919, 1921 and 1935 (West Ham)

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Minnie Maud Cave
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1897
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 2144

on his military records he married -

Minnie Maud SLATER on 31st March 1918

Address - Guildford Road, Ash, Surrey

(image 1992 of 4623)




looks to have been mis-transcribed


Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Cave Charles W Slater W.Ham 4a 97
Slater Minnie M Cave W. Ham 4a 97