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That's it! Terriffic Lyn, thank you!

For Stacey - Chick I have the marriage record but not the marriage certificate.

name: John Hamilton Stacey
event: Marriage
event date: 23 Feb 1865
event place: St Mary's, Beaminster, Dorset, England
gender: Male
marital status: Single
father: John Stacey
spouse: Martha Chick
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: John Chick
digital folder number: 004508391

But the Stacey - Hamilton link is the explanation for the "Hamilton Stacey" that keeps on cropping up of which there are three of which I am aware.

Thank you very much, Lyn!

So now, off we go again looking for Ann's and John's details.

Have you seen this marriage?

It could have something to do with John's middle name???

groom's name: John Stacey
bride's name: Ann Hamilton
marriage date: 11 Jun 1835
marriage place: Beaminster, Dorset, England
indexing project (batch) number: M15803-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279479

Marriages Mar 1865 (>99%)
Chick Martha Beaminster 5a 553
Stacey John Hamilton Beaminster 5a 553

Have you got their marriage certificate?

Yes, Lynski, that would be possible, and that would give me his mother's name. To gain confidence in this interpretation I'd like to find JHS's marriage record.

Just going back to your comment about there being another JHS - one thing to consider is that he could have been christened when he was older??????

Thank you for checking the images, Christina, there's wealth of detail there, isn't there! I'll try looking on google street view to look at the houses - although without a number it may be difficult (if the house stil exists of corse).

It just says buried in the parish of Beaminster.

Ceremony performed by J H Stonehouse.

Annie Elizabeth Stacey.

Abode Beaminster (died at 1 Bedford Place, Bridport.)

Buried on the 9th November 1943.

Age 76.

Looking at the images(there are two of them), Martha and Annie have filled in their own form (signed by Annie E Stacey) ....and state relation to head as Visitor. Theirs are the only names on this form.

William MacKendrick is a Director of an Oil Company, employing a Governess and 3 Servants.

Hugh Robinson is a visting Solicitor.

William's address is The Cedars. Martha And Annie's address is Thornton House.

So it doesn't look as though they are in the same property, both of which have eleven rooms.

Perhaps both houses were owned by William MacKendrick?

And that death record ties up another loose end, thank you again Christina. It confirms the middle name as Elizabeth, my mother referred once to an Aunt Lizzie and another time to an Aunt Annie but told the same storey for each, suggesting they might be the same person. She was buried at St Andrews Church, White Sheet Hill, Beaminster I believe - is there any way to check where the Annie in the death record you found is buried?

That's excellent, Christina, thank you. Would you say this was likely to be a hotel / lodging house? William taking in lodgers to help pay for help with the kids as his wife is no longer with him? I suppose it could be a well-to-do house with servants. Is there any way to tell?

And possible burial record.....

Dorset, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-2001
about Annie Elizabeth Stacey Name: Annie Elizabeth Stacey
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 76
Burial Date: 9 Nov 1943
Parish: Beaminster

She's still single in 1911, so probably never married. Here she is with her mother....


1911 England Census
about Annie E Stacey Name: Annie E Stacey
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bromley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Southlands Grove, Thornton House, Bickley, Kent
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Bromley
Registration District Number: 42
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 3647
Household Members: Name Age
William Pollock Mackendrick 48
Faith Mackendrick 11
Sherla Turner Mackendrick 9
Douglas William Mackendrick 8
Katharine Mary Robinson 42
Hugh Muschamp Robinson 27
Lily Clements 44
Florence Hope 26
Winifred Barden 24
Martha Stacey 70
Annie E Stacey 44

Thanks Christine, that confirms Ann(ie) and weakens my theory about Elizabeth Ann.

Births Dec 1866
Stacey Annie E Ecclesall B. 9c 299

I've been browsing the marriage records on GR and I've found an Elizabeth Ann V Stacey married in Ecclesall Bierlow - which was where Martha and JHS lived. Can someone please find out more about this marriage and whether it could be the same Ann?

Thanks Shirley, that 1891 census says Annie was born in Sheffield like her brothers, and the 1901 says JHS was a travelling clerk - which he certainly seems to be!

Are those marriage records, Shirley? If so it's a possible for Ann. Is there any way of getting further information about her?

Thanks Julie. John the father died young. I believe (my interpretation of the evidence so far) that he married in Dorset, went to Sheffield - presumably for a job, died, and his wife and kids moved back to Beaminster to live with Martha's parents.

@Lynski - oh no! not another JHS ;_) This is really strange. I am / was reasonably confident of JHS senior's birth date as 1838, the 1861 census gives abt 1839 and I have a registration date of 3Q1838, I know nothing of his parents yet. So if this really is another one I'd love to understand how he fits in.

That marriage for JHS fits nicely, thank you. And his father's name is ..... John!

And the 1871 census is the evidence for Martha and her children (x3) moving back to live with her parents. Circmstantial evidence for there only being three children.

@Shirley - is that the 1871 census record? I think it would fit with JHS going to Sheffield for work on his own and then sending for Martha when he was settled?

Thanks all!

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Name: STACEY, Ann
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1901
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 877

Name: WALKER, Alfred
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1901
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 877

1901
JAMES, Elizabeth Head Widow F 60 1841
Downham Market
Norfolk VIEW
TALBOT, John Brother Widower M 69 1832 General Labourer
Downham Market
Norfolk VIEW
POHL, Frank Grand Son Single M 12 1889
Canning Town
Essex VIEW
STACEY, John H Boarder Single M 35 1866 Travelling Clerk
Sheffield
Yorkshire >>>>>>>>>>>>>
ENOCH, Vaughan Boarder Widower M 59 1842 Shingler
Wolverhampton
Staffordshire VIEW
Piece:
1585 Folio:
32 Page:
1 Registration District:
West Ham

Civil Parish:
West Ham Municipal Borough:
Address:
120, Barking Road, West Ham County:
Essex

1891 census
STACEY, Martha Head Widow F 50 1841 Living On Own Means
Beaminster
Dorsetshire VIEW
STACEY, John H Son Single M 25 1866 Manufacturing Jeweller
Sheffield
Yorkshire VIEW
STACEY, Annie E Daughter Single F 24 1867
Sheffield
Yorkshire VIEW
Piece:
179 Folio:
32 Page:
1 Registration District:
Hackney

Civil Parish:
Stoke Newington Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Heathland Road, Stoke Newington County:
London