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Diane

Diane Report 20 Mar 2012 00:58

thanks

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Mar 2012 21:10

Diane

........... and it is Jane and Charles Henry Page marriage that we are trying to find


and it is obvious, if you read carefully, that we have been unable to do so


Therefore, the suggestion is that they DID NOT marry ............ possibly because one of them was already married, or because they did not want to get married.


I think we have also proved that Jane went on to marry Henry Penrose in 1899.


We have tried, but not found a marriage for Jane Cann to someone else ................... now you need to see if you can find a previous marriage for Henry Charles Page.


If not, then you will just have to accept that it was a common-law relationship ...... which was just as common in those days as it is today.



sylvia

Diane

Diane Report 19 Mar 2012 17:19

Bertha Page
i have her birth cert stating mother as Jane Cann

It's jane and Henry Charles Page marriage i'm after.
Bertha Page married George Edward Smith
Smith is my Fathers surname.

I also have a Jane smith who married Thomas Page,
So it is very confusing.

It;s me on ancestry
family tree name of richards
user name joshiemonkey

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 19:08

and not the other one .......................

Jane Cann married George Luxton, and they are living in Beaford, Torrington, on the 1881 Census, with 3 children.



so the Jane we are looking for was not apparently married before marrying Henry Charles.


May be he was married?????



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 18:56

Not, I think, the Jane who married John Durant Partridge .............. there is a will from 1916, when he died, granting Probate to his widow Jane


and I've found them together on the 1891 Census, living in Chulmleigh





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 18:50

That IS another possibility that I had thought of, but searched out.


It IS going to be difficult to prove though, because by the 1881 Census Jane is with Henry Charles in Worcester




sylvia

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 16 Mar 2012 12:52

Maybe they didn't get married because Jane was already married??

Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
Cann Jane Torrington 5b 924
COOK Thomas Torrington 5b 924
LUXTON George Torrington 5b 924
Purkis Mary Torrington 5b 924

or

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
Cann Jane Crediton 5b 705
Partridge John Durant Crediton 5b 705

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 09:20

Nor me.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 09:05

1871 Address: Gill House, Zeal Monachorum
FORD, William Head M 84 1787 Devon
FORD, James Son M 52 1819 Devon
FORD, Elizabeth Daughter F 40 1831 Devon
BREALY, John Servant M 28 1843 Devon
LEE, William Servant M 14 1857 Devon
PIKE, John Servant M 12 1859 Devon
CANN, Jane Servant F 15 1856 Devon
CANN, Elizabeth Servant F 12 1859 Devon

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 03:16

I just cannot see any marriage for Jane and Henry Charles Page



so I have to ask again .......


could it be that they did not marry, but lived common law???



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 03:12

according to the Parish Register entry for Jane and Henry Penrose, her father was Robert Cann


England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Henry Penrose

Groom's Name: Henry Penrose
Groom's Birth Date: 1841
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 58
Bride's Name: Jane Page
Bride's Birth Date: 1856
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 43
Marriage Date: 09 Aug 1899
Marriage Place: St. Paul, Worcester, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name: William Penrose
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Robert Cann
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01519-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040485
Reference Number: v 7 p 168



and as I have been suspecting her birth year was 1856 rather than ca 1859 .... she lost a few years from her age from time to time :-)





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 03:00

Henry didn't live long!


Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)

Penrose Henry 58 Worcester 6c 181




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 02:55

apparently not!!

The hint is in the second name



Births Dec 1893 (>99%)

Page Hubert Penrose Worcester 6c 268


Births Jun 1895 (>99%)

Page Arthur Penrose Worcester 6c 305


Births Sep 1897 (>99%)

Page Ellen Penrose Worcester 6c 297





sylvia

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 02:47

possible

1871 Address: Lowesmoore Sansom Place, Claines, Worcester
PAGE, William Head M 40 1831 Gloucestershire
PAGE, Emma Wife F 35 1836 Gloucestershire
PAGE, Henry Charles Son M 14 1857 Gloucestershire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 02:01

1861
Address: Oldborough Road, Morchard Bishop
CANN, Robert Head Married M 35 1826 Ag Lab
Morchard Bishop
Devon
CANN, Jane Wife Married F 33 1828 Wool Weaver
Morchard Bishop
Devon
CANN, Mary A Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
Morchard Bishop
Devon VIEW
CANN, George Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Morchard Bishop
Devon VIEW
CANN, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
Morchard Bishop
Devon
CANN, John Son M 5 1856
Morchard Bishop
Devon
CANN, Jane Daughter F 5 1856
Morchard Bishop
Devon
CANN, William Son M 2 1859
Morchard Bishop
Devon

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 01:51

So these are not his children?

PAGE, Arthur P Son Single M 5 1896 School
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Ellen P Daughter Single F 3 1898 School
Worcester
Worcestershire

and maybe not this one either?

PAGE, Hubert P Son Single M 7 1894 School
Worcester
Worcestershire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 01:49

1891 Address: 7, Foundry Street, Worcester
PAGE, Jane Head Married F 32 1859
Morchard Bishop
Devonshire
PAGE, Henry C Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Gertrude R Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Bertha Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Worcester
Worcestershire

1891 census - household transcription
Person: PAGE, Henry Charles
Institution: County And City Of Worcester, Powick
PAGE, Henry Charles Patient Married M 35 1856 Writing Clerk
Lunatic

Deaths Sep 1894 (>99%)
Page Henry Charles 39 Upton 6c 142

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 01:43

Marriages Sep 1899
Page Jane Worcester 6c 479
Penrose Henry Worcester 6c 479

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Mar 2012 01:40

1901Address: 4, 1, Court House, Charles Street, Worcester
PENROSE, Jane Head Widow F 44 1857 Charwoman
Orchard Bishop
Devonshire
PAGE, Henry Chas Son Single M 19 1882 Packer At Tin Factory
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Gertrude Daughter Single F 17 1884 Invalid
Paralysed Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Bertha Daughter Single F 15 1886 Gloveress Tacker
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Hubert P Son Single M 7 1894 School
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Arthur P Son Single M 5 1896 School
Worcester
Worcestershire
PAGE, Ellen P Daughter Single F 3 1898 School
Worcester
Worcestershire

Where does the Penrose fit in?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Mar 2012 00:25

is it possible that they did not marry????