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Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 29 Mar 2012 19:38

This looks promising Mary.

Mary

Mary Report 29 Mar 2012 09:08

???
1911 6,Holmebush Rd
Putney Heath Wandsworth
Eliza Fullagar born @ 1876 Canterbury a servant

1901 Streatham 57 > 42
Nightingale House
Babington Rd Wandsworth
Eliza Fullagar 1875 servant born Canterbury.

1901 Streatham 33 29 Wandsworth.
Charles Boys 1885 and his parents.
Don't know where George R Boys is in 1901 .

1901 Streatham D33 > 32 15,Martindale Rd
Annie Fullagar servant born @ 1878 Dover kent.
Note this is same area as the Boys family,only a couple of streets away.

Maryb.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 28 Mar 2012 22:43

Just been informed by a relative that E Fullagar could have been Elizabeth,
Known as Lizzy.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 28 Mar 2012 19:55

I'm not sure if E Fullagar is male or female.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Mar 2012 04:42

Witnesses:-
E. Fullagar & Chas Boys



is E. Fullagar male or female????


I was hoping that we could find Annie via one of the witnesses!

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 23:10

Can't find his death as yet,
Tried all the surname variations.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Mar 2012 23:04

Just for the sake of completeness, this is that 1890 marriage, confirms Ozibirds conclusions on the 1891 census:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Annie Louisa Preece
Name: Annie Louisa Preece < widow of 48 Evelyn St, Deptford
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Spouse Name: John Joseph Fullager < bachelor, coppersmith of 24 Walton Rd, Deptford
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 May 1890
Parish: Deptford St Luke
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Joseph Burry (Dc'd) Farmer
Spouse Father Name: John Fullager (Dc'd) Engine Driver
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Wm Hy Meliving (??) and Bertha Mary Tilney

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Mar 2012 22:54

You will notice that I've already concluded that he is not Annie's father as he was single in 1901.

In this game, and I've been researching for over 30 years, you never take anything at face value. You always look beyond the square. That's why I look for fathers until proven deceased.

Has the death of a John Fallagar/Fallager been found yet?


Ozi

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 22:47

If that is her dad John on 1911 census,I wonder why she said he was dead on marriage cert??

Maryb

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 22:15

I would love to read about the Vessel Ozibird,
Could you give me a link ?

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 22:01

Two John Fullagars 1856 !!!
However, 1911 dredging fits in with Sailor.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Mar 2012 21:55

1891 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Newhaven Harbour
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Occupation: Fisherman

Condition as to marriage: Single

Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Newhaven
ED, institution, or vessel: Duke of York

He is the only person on the page and it has his signature at the bottom.


Bummer!!! He's also single in 1901.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Mar 2012 21:51

Here's John Fullagar and Annie Preece, and I don't think they're yours.

1891 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Fullagar
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Wellington Place

Occupation: Coppersmith

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
Piece: 497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
John Fullagar 35
Annie Fullagar 39 - Whitney, Yorkshire
Lilian Pruce 3 [Preece] - step-daughter; Bermondsey

By 1901 John is widowed and he and Lillian, recorded as Fullagar, are living with his mother, Jemima. He's a coppersmith.


However, I have found this in 1911. He's the right age to be Annie's father.

1911 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Crew
Birth Place: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Act Master
Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: Dover

The next page is interesting as it is all about the vessel. He's involved in dredging operations on the Govt Craft, DW 37 Hopper. The vessel is moored overnight at Admiralty Harbour, Dover.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 21:24

Just found a marriage,
John Joseph Fullagar x Annie Louisa Preece, june qtr 1890. Greenwich.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 21:01

Well sourced Maryb,
Witnesses:-
E. Fullagar & Chas Boys

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 13:34

1911 census,Harry Walter long occupies a 3 room Flat at 22 Bensham Grove,other occupants

1911 22,Bensham Grove 3 rooms
Alice Louisa Boys 1858 Cliffords Inn married 34 years 10 children 5 died.
So this is why Annie Ellen gives this address, it is her mother in laws.

Who were the witnesses on marriage cert please.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 08:57

Any signs of her death or remarriage?

Maryb.

EDIT Her death ??
Annie E Boys born @ 1883 died A/M/J 1968 Surrey
V5g P77.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Mar 2012 23:04

You don't necessarily live at the address you give for marriage, which I know doesn't help.

When we got married I gave a different address to my own so we could get married in a nicer register office.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 22:56

As she married 17th April 1911, I thought she might have been listed.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 26 Mar 2012 22:52

1911 of 22 Bensham Grove - you asked for the people who lived there.